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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:36 pm to
Ah see you say they are the same but when it comes to a felony hung on your arse we will parse.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Biden appointee?


Fitzpatrick is a magistrate judge. He was appointed during Bidens term, but magistrates are voted on by the existing district court judges Appointment announcement
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Crimes were determined en route to the trial.



Where did we see that before? Why didn't the judges do the same for Trump when they knew what the prosecutors were doing?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:37 pm to
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Fitzpatrick is a magistrate judge. He was appointed during Bidens term, but magistrates are voted on by the existing district court judges Appointment announcement

So a good old boys system.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:39 pm to
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Where did we see that before?
Both with Trump and Comey

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Why didn't the judges do the same for Trump
partisanship probably.

Just because they did a scummy thing, doesn't make the other side morally justified in doing a scummy thing

Just makes both scummy
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:39 pm to
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In addition to the alleged burden shifting, the magistrate suggests that Halligan used the “just trust me bro” argument to suggest there was more evidence than what was presented (p.16 office magistrates decision


As always, Dukkbill, thanks for sharing the actual document. After reading it, I think this indictment will be the Hindenburg of all failed indictments.

The best thing for the Trump DOJ would be a mercy killing based on finding that Halligan was not legally authorized to act on behalf of the United States.

Obligatory photo of Halligan to balance the dry legal discussion (she will be missed):

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:39 pm to
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Even in GA, the investigation was started in search of a crime,

Well the underlying predicate crimes were out in the open.

Now RICO cases are always tricky. That's why all the hopium that the DOJ can find one that spans 9 years is a stretch.

Trump's problem was a lot of idiots, charlatans, and people acting clever in response to the 2020 election doing pretty much exactly you're describing. The difference is the 2020 Truthers could never find the evidence, despite their puffery, which is what ensnared them in lots of the purported illegality they were then accused of committing. It didn't take much "looking" once the idiots performed their farcical LARPing
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:40 pm to
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I have wasted enough space and incurred enough hate already in explaining legally that there's little chance of this flimsy case making it to trial...and ZERO chance of there being a conviction.

Knock yourselves out in believing the legal grifters (superseding indictment!), but you can save lots of time and just accept that Comey will skate on THESE charges.



So, someone her has enough sense and integrity to state some truth.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:40 pm to
On second thought. I don't think Patel's comments are important really. Not smart, but all of these technicalities. SFP is going to love all of this...

Hank may even return to gloat, Comey will skate.

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A federal judge ordered prosecutors Monday to turn over secret grand jury records in the case against former FBI Director James Comey to his legal team Monday, calling out “a disturbing pattern of profound investigative missteps, missteps that … potentially undermine the integrity of the grand jury proceeding.”

In a 24-page ruling, US Magistrate Judge William Fitzpatrick accused the feds of flouting attorney-client privilege to secure an indictment of President Trump’s longtime nemesis, ripped interim US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia Lindsey Halligan for “fundamental misstatements of the law” to the panel, and flagged unexplained irregularities in the grand jury transcript.

Specifically, the judge laid out a timeline of the day the two-count indictment of Comey was handed up, noting that Halligan claimed to the court that she last had contact with the grand jury at 4:28 p.m., while the panelists were deliberating.

A federal judge ordered prosecutors to turn over all grand jury materials in the case against former FBI Director James Comey to his legal team on Monday.

However, the grand jury rejected one additional count against the former top lawman, necessitating prosecutors to draw up a second indictment for Halligan to sign.

The interim US attorney’s declaration stated that she learned that one count had been rejected at 6:40 p.m. and the hearing on the return of the indictment began seven minutes later.

“The short time span between the moment the prosecutor learned that the grand jury rejected one count in the original indictment and the time the prosecutor appeared in court to return the second indictment could not have been sufficient to draft the second indictment, sign the second indictment, present it to the grand jury, provide legal instructions to the grand jury, and give them an opportunity to deliberate and render a decision on the new indictment,” Fitzpatrick said.

“If the prosecutor is mistaken about the time she received notification of the grand jury’s vote on the original indictment, and this procedure did take place, then the transcript and audio recording provided to the Court are incomplete,” he added. “If this procedure did not take place, then the Court is in uncharted legal territory in that the indictment returned in open court was not the same charging document presented to and deliberated upon by the grand jury … and provides another genuine issue the defense may raise to challenge the manner in which the government obtained the indictment.”

Fitzpatrick also took issue with investigators’ handling of four search warrants executed by the FBI in 2019 and 2020 as part of the bureau’s Arctic Haze probe into how classified information from the bureau was leaked to news outlets.

The warrants targeted Comey’s friend and lawyer Daniel Richman, a professor at Columbia Law School, and sought information from his iPhone, iPad, iCloud account and hard drive.

Fitzpatrick found that while the government allowed Columbia, Richman and his attorney to identify privileged content in what they found, they “never engaged Mr. Comey in this process even though it knew that Mr. Richman represented Mr. Comey as his attorney as of May 9, 2017, and three of the four Richman Warrants authorized the government to search Mr. Richman’s devices through May 30, 2017, 21 days after an attorney-client relationship had been formed.”

The judge also noted that while the FBI “was permitted to search all of the Richman materials” they could only seize evidence of theft of government property and retention of national security information, “both markedly different offenses than those with which Mr. Comey is currently charged.”

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Ah see you say they are the same

Where did I say the NY case had the same issues as the Comey case?

I did not, hence me asking you to show your work.

Or are you just connecting dots irrationally?
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1020 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:42 pm to
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That’s not even getting to the stale warrants, testifying agent may have testified to conversations protected by AC privilege, etc.


I was trying to parse that. So if I read correctly, the FBI exceeded their seizure rights for the Richmond emails based on the Arctic Frost subpoenas and then rushed a new subpoena in the Arctic Haze investigation and then tried to use the information in the 2025 investigation?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56691 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:43 pm to
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The judge has already stated that the prosecution decided on indictment before presenting the case to the grand jury


The judge is wrong. We can all read his testimony (even you can read it). It is crystal clear he made false statements. I don’t think even you can deny that. You’re relying on procedural issues and claiming they are substantive. It’s disingenuous at best….and flat out deceptive at worst. You should be ashamed.


Can you please point us to your post criticizing someone running in “get Trump?”

Of course you can’t. You’re a pathetic person.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56691 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:43 pm to
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I have wasted enough space and incurred enough hate already in explaining legally that there's little chance of this flimsy case making it to trial...and ZERO chance of there being a conviction


Please explain it one more time. No litigator in this country would EVER say something has a ZERO percent chance of happening. You never know what could happen in court.

Also…Hank…how many alters do you have? A family law attorney from podunct county Texas isn’t the greatest authority on what can and will happen in court.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:45 pm to
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, someone her has enough sense and integrity to state some truth.
There are several of us.

They call us Libertarian trash and my favorite "panicans"

Ron Paul would be labeled such. That is where the GOP is right now.

Apparently those of us that said bombing Iran was wrong, meant we were panicking, or some such.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31648 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:45 pm to
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The best thing for the Trump DOJ would be a mercy killing based on finding that Halligan was not legally authorized to act on behalf of the United States.


Should be getting a ruling on that next week. I dunno how I feel about that though I was planning on continued entertainment from this case at least into January.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56691 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:48 pm to
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his corrupt biding.


You should read the transcript of his testimony before proving to the board you’re a complete moron. People that post with hubris from a place of complete ignorance are so fascinating.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9016 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:49 pm to
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Obligatory photo of Halligan to balance the dry legal discussion (she will be missed):


Nice legs but a man-ly face.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56691 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:50 pm to
Would love to see the statement. Was this a magistrate or a judge’s ruling?
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
81860 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:51 pm to
MAGA peeps are just shadowboxing, really.

Pretty much everyone agrees the NY case was obviously political persecution.

I dont know a single soul, right or left, who thinks those felony counts were valid in any way. People just use it on the interwebs, because it is a thing that needles MAGA. Same with the "Trump raped that *shudder* chick"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465551 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:52 pm to
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