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re: Jeffery Goldberg claims he was accidentally added to war games chat from Trump admin

Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:24 pm to
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56187 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

Unlike a lot of BS they threw at Trump this is actually worthy of an investigation.


oh great, another investigation!

no wonder nothing gets done in Washington
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38606 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:26 pm to
To alert the American public that this clown brigade is planning military operations with all the caution of an inner office text thread

They clearly had no idea who was in the chat and how easily compromised they were
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38606 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:28 pm to
It’s trolling to suggest that high level military operations not be discussed in front of journalists?
Posted by rstamp1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1447 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 4:55 am to
So idiotically adding a wrong person to a signal chat shows complete incompetence regardless of the hostages freed, successful strikes on terrorists and headway on ending the Russia/Ukraine war the last few months
But
The previous administrations Afghanistan withdraw resulting in over a dozen soldiers and hundreds of others deaths as well as leaving Americans behind for the Taliban and drone striking an aid worker and children is the picture of competence.
Give me a break.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2792 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:16 am to
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OK. Who cares.
1. It’s a violation of federal law.

2. People die because of this blatant lapse in judgment.

3. This is exactly what Hillary Clinton did and Trump campaigned on “Locking Her Up” for 2 years because of it.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59325 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:41 am to
I did not expect to discover that the US government uses the same app I downloaded to chat with my 5 year old daughter’s Girl Scout troop to discuss military actions today.

Living in 2025 is like being awake during surgery.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12636 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:24 am to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19274 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:46 am to
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1. It’s a violation of federal law.


We don't know that. Signal could be approved for such uses by NSA. I haven't checked into whether it is or isn't, but as long as you use approved devices, you are not breaking laws. From what was reported today, they were all using government phones, not personal phones which lends credence to the fact that they were trying to follow procedure.

quote:

2. People die because of this blatant lapse in judgment.


Yes, but we don't know how Goldberg got in the chat. If someone intentionally invited him, then that is a problem. But as of now it seems to have been a mistake.
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3. This is exactly what Hillary Clinton did and Trump campaigned on “Locking Her Up” for 2 years because of it.


No it's not even close. Hillary had a server of thousands of top-secret documents in her basement being ran by a guy with zero security clearance. Those documents were on the Internet easily hackable by China or Russia. This Goldberg incident is nowhere close to that.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7943 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:14 am to
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This is exactly what real journalism is. Any journalist that buries a story this big is just another extension of whatever administration is in power.


And yet, Hunter Biden was allowed in cabinet meetings....

In this case, there are many questions that need answering

1. Who decided to use this app
2. Who added the reporter (it is not done "accidentally")

Heads should role
Posted by Mizzou68
Member since Nov 2013
211 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:14 am to
Watching FoxNews right now I’m trusting Hegseth and Walz over the Trump hating Goldberg swine.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9116 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:18 am to
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Watching FoxNews right now I’m trusting Hegseth and Walz over the Trump hating Goldberg swine.


I haven't seen Hegseth or Waltz deny anything Goldberg has asserted re these communications.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5914 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:19 am to
No, it's not EXACTLY what Hillary did. There are some key differences and I bet if you think about it for about two minutes you'll figure them out.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19274 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:19 am to
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I did not expect to discover that the US government uses the same app I downloaded to chat with my 5 year old daughter’s Girl Scout troop to discuss military actions today


You realize the whole reason Signal exists is for secure chat, right? A lot of effort went into its development. Its security protocols were published in academic journals and later licensed to Apple, Meta and others. They all use the Signal protocol for their messaging apps because everyone knows it is the best out there.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 7:21 am
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67629 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:20 am to
The National Security Council has acknowledged that the story is true.
It was a monumental frick up…
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3225 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:23 am to
Seems like it is real….. Walz phone added Goldberg from what I read…Walz seems ok but his wife is a far left looney, look there for answers….

As far as a using Signal and texts to discuss stuff like this..It is stupid I have to admit…. Really just lazy…..this new generation is too used to using the easy method….
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7943 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:24 am to
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Watching FoxNews right now I’m trusting Hegseth and Walz over the Trump hating Goldberg swine


a few details would be nice...
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9116 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:25 am to
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The National Security Council has acknowledged that the story is true.
It was a monumental frick up…


Agree. I don't understand the hostility to Goldberg here. Unlike much of his work, this seems like actual journalism.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7943 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:25 am to
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Walz phone added Goldberg from what I read


He needs to be gone today...
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32495 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:26 am to
Big W for you
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:28 am to
Goldberg did nothing wrong. It doesn't matter how you get a leak, that's on the person who did it. This wasn't even really a leak, though. That's why I don't understand some of the skepticism of Waltz. He didn't do this behind anyone's back, it was all right there in the text thread. How did no one in the chat notice this? Did everyone assume it was a different JG?

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