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re: James Lindsay Opinion Piece on the Iran Deal
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:00 pm to supatigah
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:00 pm to supatigah
quote:
we dont need to
Then why did we quit and let Iran win the deal?
You've created this scenario where we held all the cards, Iran had no military, had no economy, and closing the SOH had no impact....and yet they got the better end of the deal?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Damn—-you presented a lot of pitfalls that had not been discussed yet.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:05 pm to LSUbest
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It's a pseudo civil war.
Is it even really "pseudo"?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:07 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I know the video passed around the echo chamber was proven to not be recent
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
I have no idea what you are referencing or how that answers my question.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:10 pm to Y.A. Tittle
There was a video of supposed sectarian conflict among the Iranian regime passed around the echo chamber recently that was shown to be from a long time ago (ie, not showing actual conflict within the regime). It seems like wishcasting at this point from pro-MAGA people who hope there is a 7D chutes and ladders angle to the deal.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
I will say this, your autism is exhausting and always has been
I dont have the time or patience to do this with you
all I will say is you are in some really deep water with speculation and bad propaganda laced facts
I think you dont understand the severity of what has happened to Iran and how long it will take them to recover
they were on the verge of collapse internally before Feb 28, 2026.
Please remember their protests in January and February were about the lack of drinking water in Tehran BEFORE the shite hit the fan
if they are lucky we are looking at a Germany or Japan from 1945-1955 and those two countries had clean governments with a new attitude for recovery and resources to build from. Iran hasn't even had their Coup or even worse their Civil War yet
WTF does Iran have to build on?
bookmark this thread, come back in a year and let's see who is closer to the truth
I dont have the time or patience to do this with you
all I will say is you are in some really deep water with speculation and bad propaganda laced facts
I think you dont understand the severity of what has happened to Iran and how long it will take them to recover
they were on the verge of collapse internally before Feb 28, 2026.
Please remember their protests in January and February were about the lack of drinking water in Tehran BEFORE the shite hit the fan
quote:
Iran is suffering through a historic "water bankruptcy" driven by decades of over-extraction, climate change, and recent infrastructure damages from conflict.
Major urban centers are near empty, and the situation threatens access to drinking water and energy for millions of people. The catastrophic drinking water shortage is defined by several critical factors:
Depleted Reservoirs: The capital city of Tehran—home to about 10 million people—has faced severe reservoir depletion, forcing officials to impose rolling water cuts, nightly rationing, and rely on public wells.
Other major hubs like Mashhad have seen reserves fall to dangerously low single digits.
Relocation Plans: The crisis has become so dire that Iranian officials have declared the need to begin a decades-long process of relocating the capital from arid Tehran to wetter coastal regions.
Systemic Overpumping: More than half a century of unsustainable policies have drained underground aquifers. The push for agricultural self-sufficiency has led to rampant well-sinking, accelerating saltwater intrusion and causing parts of Tehran to sink.
Climate and Conflict: The situation has been compounded by multi-year droughts and a significant reduction in winter snow cover. Furthermore, recent infrastructure damage from military operations has severely strained already fragile water and desalination treatment facilities.
if they are lucky we are looking at a Germany or Japan from 1945-1955 and those two countries had clean governments with a new attitude for recovery and resources to build from. Iran hasn't even had their Coup or even worse their Civil War yet
WTF does Iran have to build on?
bookmark this thread, come back in a year and let's see who is closer to the truth
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Then why did we quit and let Iran win the deal?
You've created this scenario where we held all the cards, Iran had no military, had no economy, and closing the SOH had no impact....and yet they got the better end of the deal?
won the deal
ok buddy
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:13 pm to supatigah
The medium/long term result is the GCC’s are going to start building more pipelines and more countries will be buying oil from the US and South/Latin America which the US is going more influence over. This is going to leave Iran more exposed and unable to harm the world economy.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:14 pm to supatigah
quote:
they were on the verge of collapse internally before Feb 28, 2026.
I don't disagree. They're in a much better position now. Their long-term outlook is much better in June 2026 than January 2026. That's the problem with the war and this result.
quote:
Please remember their protests in January and February were about the lack of drinking water in Tehran BEFORE the shite hit the fan
And they killed 30k and both those protests and the murders amounted to no impact on the regime.
In fact, they continued to kill dissidents during the war.
quote:
if they are lucky we are looking at a Germany or Japan from 1945-1955 and those two countries had clean governments with a new attitude for recovery and resources to build from. Iran hasn't even had their Coup or even worse their Civil War yet
We just empowered the fanatical regime both financially/economically (with the deal) and spiritually (with the stalemate in the war)
This dream of regime change should seem farther away now than in January 2026 looking at the totality.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:14 pm to The_Duke
And you’ve proved my point in your first sentence that you are in fact, a pussy. You have offered nothing either, just bitching and complaining about your feelings.
Typical of mentally damaged leftist
Typical of mentally damaged leftist
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:16 pm to supatigah
quote:
won the deal
They gave up nothing and gained a TON.
Why would the US give them all of that if they were in the position you keep trying to create? Why would we lift sanctions? Why would we even negotiate? It seems like we could just sit back and hope for the regime change you think is coming. We weren't expending lots of military resources and we supposedly controlled the SOH, so there is no reason why we couldn't just quarantine Iran until we got "unconditional surrender".
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:18 pm to supatigah
This guy is British/Syrian or something, but hates the west. But, he has been a good follow about how the U.S. has cornered energy markets and is relentless and usually gets what they want when they want to break a country. This may be a decade long on and off war/sanctions situation.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:21 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Maybe quasi would be a better word.
Intense combat on a small scale and widely scattered.
Intense combat on a small scale and widely scattered.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:24 pm to supatigah
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:45 pm to cajunangelle
Something this board is like 2 weeks late on
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:47 pm to supatigah
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I'm starting to think it's similar to Reagan's strategy that choked the Soviet Union
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:47 pm to Taxing Authority
We're supposed to believe the Gulf States can contain Iran, and Iran was about to collapse, yet they still got such an amazing deal.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
The gulf states have luxury hotels. They will contain Iran. A few weeks ago someone asked what to do if they were Trump. I replied, talk to the gulf states that are losing tourism in their 5 star hotels..start with Kuwait.
Trump did. Money talks and BS walks.
Trump did. Money talks and BS walks.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 6:54 pm
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