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re: Jake Tapper said Due Process is not a constitutional right
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:12 pm to Joshjrn
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:12 pm to Joshjrn
quote:Correct.
If someone, for example, accuses a Hollywood producer of sexual assault and he's ostracized by the industry, that's not a due process violation.
However, if he is terminated for cause due to unsubstantiated accusation, the situation is very different for his employer as opposed to "the industry".
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:31 pm to Joshjrn
quote:Tapper is presuming guilt.
That's all Tapper was saying.
Tapper repeatedly refers to the accusers as "victims".
Tapper believes the mere fact of accusation is cause for dismissal.
Brings to mind Tucker Carlson's harrowing story. Given his current approach, Tapper would call for Tucker's immediate dismissal.
His attitude is exactly what fed the Rolling Stone UVA travesty.
Earlier today another CNN female anchor was indignant about Trump's defense of men in these scenarios. One occasion she cited was Trump's defense of Corey Lewandowski when Lewandowski was accused by a female reporter of violently slamming her down. Had that episode not been caught on multiangle video completely discrediting the lying woman, the MSM was prepared to ruin Lewandowski.
That is the kind of BS Trump is referring to.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:32 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Aw now, you're so upset. Relax. Geaux get a tissue.
I was talking about the OP and not you, but look into it.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:42 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:I cant go a day without saying due process it is part of my daily lexicon.
So what exactly do you take Tapper's BS to mean, aside from Due Process being a courtroom term?
Let me think: the due process of your brake repair will be 3 days and 700 dollars: rotflmao:
I think they only time you hear due process is in freaking court.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:55 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
However, if he is terminated for cause due to unsubstantiated accusation, the situation is very different for his employer as opposed to "the industry".
“For cause” is a contractual issue. That’s my point.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:57 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
That is the kind of BS Trump is referring to.
All fair, and I hear you. Doesn’t make what he said about due process wrong, which is the point of this thread.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:14 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
OMLandshark
You allow women to get beat without doing anything PER YOU.
So slow down on calling out the OP.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:08 am to OMLandshark
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DawgFaninCA is a lunatic who thinks things no sane person can think
He literally says that he remembers being brought before some galactic panel before he was born that determined he could be sent to earth.
Among the sea serpent delusions and others.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:54 am to Hester Carries
I got fired from a job.
Did I have due process rights?
Nope, nada, noway jose.
Did I have due process rights?
Nope, nada, noway jose.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 6:20 am to DawgfaninCa
quote:
Jake Tapper
Is a retard
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:51 am to Joshjrn
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I'm a criminal defense attorney
If I was a criminal then I sure wouldn't hire you as my defense attorney since you don't understand one of the cornerstones of the legal system.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:04 am to Hester Carries
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He literally says that he remembers being brought before some galactic panel before he was born that determined he could be sent to earth.
Prove me wrong, Einstein.
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Among the sea serpent delusions and others.
I have several videos and photos that contain enough data (science is about gathering data) that proves sea serpents exist.
What other delusions do you claim I have?
At least I am not delusional like the SHILLS FOR HILL who bragged two weeks before the election that the election was over and that Hillary was going to win in a landslide.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:37 am to Joshjrn
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No it isn't a lie.
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Yes, it is.
Nope.
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The title is the proper inference that is deduced from the implication of his statement.
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No, it isn't.
Saying, "Due Process is a courtroom term, not a morality term in real life." is just saying it's okay for a group of people to find an accused person guilty and punish that accused person before they are found guilty in a court of law which is vigilante justice.
People can have their personal opinion regarding whether they think someone is guilty or innocent of a crime and they can dislike the accused person because they think the accused person is guilty but when a group of people start acting on their personal opinion and inflict punishment on the accused person then they are nothing but a lynch mob.
Next, you'll be saying it's okay to tar and feather Porter and run him out of town on a rail.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 9:47 am
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:24 am to ninthward
quote:I appreciate that is what you think. You are wrong of course.
I think they only time you hear due process is in freaking court.
Due process is a self-explanatory term. As such, it holds meaning in any situation where a process or procedure is defined as due to an individual within an organization under certain circumstances. In the workplace the term most often ties to issues of discipline and/or dismissal.
Medical Facility Credentialing/Decredentialing is an example I've cited here. Due process is specifically defined and accorded to any provider undergoing review. As I've said, it is ubiquitous in those circumstances.
Another example: Students at UVA rejected a proposed referendum that would have deprived fellow students of existing due process rights under the school’s procedure for adjudicating honor code violations.
Due process seems to be a term a lawyer(s) here assume as solely coopted to court proceedings. Not the case.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:33 am to DawgfaninCa
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Prove me wrong, Einstein.
Yeah, the burden of proof lies with those against the idea of an inter-galactic birthing panel
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:35 am to DawgfaninCa
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He literally says that he remembers being brought before some galactic panel before he was born that determined he could be sent to earth.
quote:
Prove me wrong, Einstein.
wait....what?
That is not how this works
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 10:37 am
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:42 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
He literally says that he remembers being brought before some galactic panel before he was born that determined he could be sent to earth.
quote:
Prove me wrong, Einstein.
quote:
wait....what?
That is not how this works
How it works is that nobody can prove me wrong.
All someone can say is based on their own core beliefs, I am wrong .
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 10:44 am
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:48 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Yeah, the burden of proof lies with those against the idea of an inter-galactic birthing panel
I don't have to prove anything to anyone since none of you know for sure what happens to someone after they die.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:18 am to DawgfaninCa
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I don't have to prove anything to anyone since none of you know for sure what happens to someone after they die.
Hey, we are talking about BEFORE you are born.
But look, id dont want to make the logically fallacious argument that discredits an unrelated point with an assessment of character.
HOWEVER, this whole thing is based on you making a claim and OM was getting blasted for pointing out that you are not a reliable witness to actual or perceived events.
I think people on the PB think any personal attack is based on political motives and i just wanted the board to know that, NO OM WAS SAYING THAT YOU ARE AN ACTUAL frickING LUNATIC.
You have now doubled down for all to see so my work here is done.
BTW....how's that oarfish doing?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:29 am to DawgfaninCa
Well, technically given our nation's history of temporary suspending due process rights when it suits us or the governments needs during war, martial law, terrorism, etc.
I mean we suspend unreasonable search and seizure all the time.
As George Carlin aptly put it, we don't have rights we have temporary privileges and those can be taken away if they get in the way of what the government wants to do.
I mean we suspend unreasonable search and seizure all the time.
As George Carlin aptly put it, we don't have rights we have temporary privileges and those can be taken away if they get in the way of what the government wants to do.
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