re: Ivermectin is the corona killer- Joe Rogan and Doctors discuss

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1) my immune system serves a purpose and has handled it
2) the virus isn’t dangerous for non high risk groups
3)the vaccine was rushed
4) there are issues for some due to vaccination
5) you’re vaccinated so don’t worry about me
6) see #1

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THIS..
PLUS
7)MY BODY MY CHOICE.... CORRECT LEFTIES?
8) 99.9% survival rate in my age group...
GET VAXXED AND SHUT UP ABOUT ME.

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The argument can be made that the vaccinated cause mutations much more quickly.

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That argument has been made and so far the scientific evidence does not back up that argument. Just like the scientific argument did not back up the fertility issue(s) claims.

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The vast majority of the population should have gotten it and recovered from it naturally hence creating natural antibodies.

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Even at the peak of the largest spike in daily cases the number of new cases is much lower than the number of vaccines per day. Plus the complication and mortality rate from the virus is about 100X higher than the vaccine. So it would take a lot longer to achieve herd immunity naturally and hundreds of thousands more would have died. So your argument is wrong AF.

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r ivermectin coulda perhaps knocked its out in a few months for many, not giving the virus much time to stick around and mutate.

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Not true at all. Do you understand the mechanism of action of Ivermectin's antiviral effects? It has been suggested (not proven or even strongly supported) that Ivermectin could stop covid replication within 72 hours. However, in order to achieve this effect it would have to be at dosages that are considered to be toxic in humans. It is not good medicine to try and treat covid with a medication that potentially result in brain damage, coma, and even brain death as a result of the neurotoxicity that the medicine has at the dosage that would have to be used. Also the way Ivermectin works would prevent a person from developing a full immune response to the infection and without the full immune response a person would not develop immunity.

The vaccine on the other hand has been shown with much stronger evidence to prevent replication in fully vaccinated individuals within minutes of an exposure and have a full immune response going by 12 hours after an exposure. Oh and there isn't the risk of giving a patient toxic dosages of a medication and having them end up brain dead.

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But you’re an MD so you know all this…

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and it is obvious that you are not and you do not understand wtf you are talking about.

My Wife and I just had Covid. She got it while attending a Church Camp. A youth pastor at the Camp was admitted to the hospital the same day my wife tested positive. The 31 year old youth pastor died days later. My Wife and I are fine. The difference, my Wife and I were already on Ivermectin prescribed by Frontline MD,s out of Houston. You can find them online and do a telemedicine visit. After we contracted it we did a sick visit with them and the prescribed Hydroxychloroquine also along with some breathing treatments. We pretty much followed the FLCC protocol listed on page 2. My wife has been a nurse for years and feels if not for these meds and the FLCC protocol we would have been in serious trouble. I am 59 years old and she is 52. It is criminal the way the medical industry is denying these cheap proven meds because they are cheap!!!!! I highly recommend frontline MD’s out of Houston and the FLCC PROTOCOL. It is easy to get human Ivermectin and not use horse wormer.

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What’s a good effective rate for a vaccine?

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Nobody knows the exact number but when I took my licensing exams years before covid became a thing 60% was the correct answer on the exam.

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If the effective rate of the Covid vaccine drops below 50%, will it still be effective in your estimation? 40%?

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At preventing infection from the wild type strain (aka the original strain) of covid? Yes. At preventing infection from all future variant(s)? No. No vaccine can protect against every future variant. The longer it takes to reach herd immunity is just more time for random chance (or poor lab safety in a lab in China) to strike again and a variant that is just dissimilar enough from the wild-type to evade the immune system, but still similar enough to be contagious and lethal to happen.

You and your church (I’m guessing no one was vaccinated) are now fodder for masks and lockdowns

Good job

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It is obvious that you are not

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I have a giant medical school loan and a piece of paper that disagrees with you.

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Covid is kicking my arse as we speak

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Get an O2 monitor ASAP. If it lingers under 80, ER,.
I was in your boat two days ago.
Today it MICU with upper respiratory pneumonia
Feel better but if I waited I’d in deep trouble

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That is not how vaccines work. Vaccines work by creating herd immunity which keeps a virus from spreading through a population. The longer it takes for a population to reach herd immunity is longer that a virus has to mutate into a variant that is different enough from the original that the immune system no longer recognizes it. Since this virus originated from a few people eating undercooked and infected bat meat (if you believe China and the WHO) or from lab workers who used poor safety techniques and got infected with the virus they were working on and then spreading it to others the number of people not getting vaccinated is a big deal.

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Ivermectin! There was no need for that 13year old boy to die in Michigan from the vaccine that was suppose to save him. FU and your damn mRNA money making scheme.

What an inspiring story

100+ people that had to miss work and spend money on medicine and doctors’ visits

That was a quite a long drive to find the diner isn’t open.