re: I’ve rarely heard Rush so adamant about a topic. We are committing economic suicide

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The economy has not stopped like being portrayed.

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Obviously there are some industries still going and going strong (and you may still be working), but this is an unprecedented level of economic interruption. A lot of industries are at a complete standstill with no real end in sight. The impact from that will eventually hurt B2B companies that are fine currently, as cost cutting measures begin to be felt.

You have two sentences with different amounts of cases and deaths on the same day. Could you correct one date?

Thanks.

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If it is not fear, anxiety, worry, etc. then what is your motivation for supporting a shutdown vis-a-vis freedom of personal choice?

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I'd argue it's less about supporting a shutdown and more about understanding why we are in a shutdown, and knowing or more to the point, not saying with 100% certainty I know how this is going to end or would have ended if we did something different. I don't.

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Is it because it would save lives? Then we need to ban cars. We'd save millions of lives.

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It's about the unknown.

If you told me 1000 people died from car accidents last month, then 300,000 people died next month, and our foremost experts are predicting 4 million people would die the month after that and if we did nothing absolutely no one knows just how bad it could get down the road in a few months...I'd probably understand if the government said we need to chill out on driving cars until we can figure out how to stop all these people from dying. That would be the true comparison with respect to banning cars.

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You have two sentences with different amounts of cases and deaths on the same day. Could you correct one date?

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Done

You're welcome

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Today we can shut cities and economies down and trample on individual rights to make ourselves feel good about caring so much, but the cold hard reality is this cake was baked when we spent the last ten years obsessing about largely made-up issues like racism, guns, how many genders there are and of course Russia/impeachment

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Possibly the best thing I've ever read on this god-forsaken website.

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Thoughts? Yes.
You're not an epidemiologist, nor have you read much about epidemics, much less studied them.

Neither are you an economist.

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So are you an epidemiologist or an economist or do you have no thoughts at all on the current situation?

Which of the 3 do you fall under?

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You need to understand - that if it makes a shred of sense to shut the country down for a month, it makes just as much sense to shut it down for 18 months. There is no logic whatsoever to the notion that "shelter in place" changes ANYTHING but how quickly we deal with the impact of C-19. We are cratering the economy for hoped-for but very uncertain health benefits at the margin. Here's the ugly truth nobody is willing to discuss: we were not prepared for C-19, and the time we could have done something meaningful about it was over the last ten years. Today we can shut cities and economies down and trample on individual rights to make ourselves feel good about caring so much, but the cold hard reality is this cake was baked when we spent the last ten years obsessing about largely made-up issues like racism, guns, how many genders there are and of course Russia/impeachment - rather than running the country like adults were in charge.

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Excellent post

typical month of flu deaths

The issue is that you are looking at the numbers in a vacuum. There are so many variables involved that it is difficult to account for them all.

What other types of fatalities have been minimized due to the shutdown? Are there any other health issues that are now rapidly growing from this? Are we simply moving deaths from one category to another (Ex: 80+ year old patient--future cardiac arrest to COVID19)?