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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma"
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
It's aggressive terminal cancer vs aggressive final AIDS.
Trump: all terminal illnesses are bad. We must find a cure.
MSM: What!?! Cancer is way worse! The fact that you won't say it means you wish all children would die of cancer! What a piece of shite!
Trump: all terminal illnesses are bad. We must find a cure.
MSM: What!?! Cancer is way worse! The fact that you won't say it means you wish all children would die of cancer! What a piece of shite!
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:43 am to cahoots
quote:
You know what Trump's comments definitely were?
Bad timing
You don't use a tragedy to call out the other side's transgressions. It doesn't matter how "right" you are. It's always going to appear as though you are sympathetic to the side that killed someone.
I disagree. He vehemently and without qualification called out the white supremacists, and called the young lady's death a tragedy that marked a dark day for the country.
He was, again in my opinion, correct to point out that both groups that day were wrong. The left, until now, has been winning the PR battle. Trump was correct to call out the entire situation for what it was when he had everyone's attention.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:45 am to Breesus
i just pointed out the logical fallacy
i included the disclaimer
this is the response
i included the disclaimer
this is the response
quote:
Either you are against people that want to do ethnic cleaning on every other race or you aren't. Seems pretty simple to me. Oh well. Have a great day.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:45 am to AggieDub14
quote:
Just because you are in favor of a society without racial descrimination, think that glbt people should be treated the same as everyone else, and think that Muslims are not all terrorists, that doesn't make you a cuck snowflake.
You basically just described something that conservatives also believe, with minor disagreements on LGBT people regarding marriage and military service.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Thank you sir.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:47 am to ibldprplgld
quote:
He was, again in my opinion, correct to point out that both groups that day were wrong. The left, until now, has been winning the PR battle. Trump was correct to call out the entire situation for what it was when he had everyone's attention.
It's a moral victory at best. You think this is going to help Trump get his agenda through Congress?
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
The problem is critical thinking. The left had abandoned critical thinking in favor of feels. That is why all of their arguments are superficial talking points.
Here is the test... ask a leftist to explain an opinion then ask why at least 3 times to see how much they have thought about the opinion. 99% of the time, when they get past the talking point, they have no idea or understanding what they are talking about
Here is the test... ask a leftist to explain an opinion then ask why at least 3 times to see how much they have thought about the opinion. 99% of the time, when they get past the talking point, they have no idea or understanding what they are talking about
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:49 am to cahoots
NO, this has nothing to do with congressional voting. The resistance is full on and will not change until the next voting cycle.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:49 am to cahoots
quote:
You know what Trump's comments definitely were?
Bad timing
You don't use a tragedy to call out the other side's transgressions. It doesn't matter how "right" you are. It's always going to appear as though you are sympathetic to the side that killed someone.
This is such horseshite. Truth is bad timing? The only thing that makes it "bad timing" is that his political enemies can manipulate it to use it against him, because they have no shame in deliberately smearing to serve their ends. That's it.
And no, it doesn't always "appear" like anything. It appears to a great number of us exactly as it is. Some of us aren't idiots who can understand that scenarios aren't always dichotomous.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:53 am to Bourre
quote:
The problem is critical thinking. The left had abandoned critical thinking in favor of feels. That is why all of their arguments are superficial talking points.
You're expecting people to think 100% critically, rationally, and with emotional influence 48 hours after someone is killed? Lol
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:55 am to ChewyDante
quote:
And no, it doesn't always "appear" like anything. It appears to a great number of us exactly as it is. Some of us aren't idiots who can understand that scenarios aren't always dichotomous.
Stop playing ignorant. Everyone knew Trump would be slammed for this as soon as the words left his mouth. You can see Kelly's reaction.
Trump even knew this would happen. He's just stubborn.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 8:56 am
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:55 am to cahoots
quote:
think this is going to help Trump get his agenda through Congress?
You think it's a sane reason for Congress to do nothing because of their ferlings of hate for Trump.
The left could win the day by saying they dislike the president but we still owe the people a hard Day's work. Instead. Bitching. Moaning. Resisting.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:58 am to roadGator
quote:
You think it's a sane reason for Congress to do nothing because of their ferlings of hate for Trump.
It's not feelings, it's politics.
quote:
The left could win the day by saying they dislike the president but we still owe the people a hard Day's work. Instead. Bitching. Moaning. Resisting.
Even Republicans and the right wing media outlets are being critical.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
My uber progressive cousin just posted this and can't possibly see the issue here
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
auth-Left
I like it
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:00 am to cahoots
Critical is fine. Get some work done.
It's also feelings.
It's also feelings.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:01 am to Salmon
You repost?
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:01 am to roadGator
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:02 am to ChewyDante
Not the ones on TDPosted on 8/18/17 at 9:02 am to Bourre
quote:
Here is the test... ask a leftist to explain an opinion then ask why at least 3 times to see how much they have thought about the opinion. 99% of the time, when they get past the talking point, they have no idea or understanding what they are talking about
People are emotional. Why don't you rationally explain to me why people on the right think history is being erased (huh) because we are taking down statues?
Or why conservatives oppose gay marriage because it infringes on the "sanctity" of marriage?
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 9:05 am
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