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Its hopeless. Kirk tried to turn young students against the machine. Look at him now.

Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:33 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:33 pm
I'd like to be hopeful for my country. I really would.
But we are kidding ourselves.

The irony cuts deep. Nations have gone to war over a disputed border, a tariff, a spark in a far-off colony....yet when the very soul of the republic is hollowed out at home, the people often stand by, hands tied, because the tools of takeover are technically “legal.”

That’s the genius and danger of transformation without breaking a single law. If you fight with bayonets, everyone sees the battlefield. If you fight with school curricula, agency rules, foundation grants, and platform algorithms, the battlefield disappears into paperwork. The public never knows where to aim its outrage.

The Founders anticipated this. Madison warned that tyranny doesn’t always come at the point of a sword .... it comes when power drifts away from the people and toward a class unaccountable to them. Jefferson’s nightmare was not just kings but “monopolies of the mind" .... a few deciding what everyone else should think.

And here we are. No dramatic coup, no tanks in the streets, no declaration that the Constitution is null. Just a slow bleeding of its spirit: debate narrowed, education turned into indoctrination, agencies issuing rules the people never voted on, speech chilled by social sanction rather than prison bars.

It feels powerless because it wears the mask of normalcy. And yet that’s why it’s more dangerous than open rebellion. A foreign army can be fought. A legal-looking machine of conformity is harder to resist, because it claims to be the law, the science, the good itself.

The question then becomes: how do you stir the same urgency for invisible capture that people once felt for visible threats? How do you convince citizens that a quiet drift into managed thought and bureaucratic rule is as deadly to liberty as any foreign invader?

I dont think there is a way.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7968 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

I'd like to be hopeful for my country. I really would.
But we are kidding ourselves.

What country is this?
I thought you were winning in the Ukraine?

Luckily the USA is made up of winners so maybe you should switch sides and come here.

Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30152 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:43 pm to
Charlie has become 1000x more powerful in death than he ever could’ve been in life if you just look around the world what is happening.

I mourn his loss. He was a good man with a young family trying to go about doing things the right way with open debate. His murder is atrocious. But in trying to silence him and our values they have unleashed something they have no idea what’s coming
Posted by RobertFootball
SC
Member since Mar 2021
2635 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:45 pm to
Nah this is a fight we are going to win in the end. The left is in desperation mode and making all kinds of costly mistakes.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:46 pm to
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What country is this? I thought you were winning in the Ukraine? Luckily the USA is made up of winners so maybe you should switch sides and come here.




Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139479 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:47 pm to
54,000 requests for Turning Point charters this week.

Charlie did it, sadly he didn't live to see it.
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
2322 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:48 pm to
Yuri Bezmenov 4 stage model of war using psychological warfare:

1. Demoralization (takes 15-20 years of brainwashing a generation)

2. Destabilization (takes 2-5 years)

3. Crisis (very short but intense and society’s breaking point is reached)

4. Normalization (the new bizarre $hit like trannies becomes “normal”)

We can go along with this or not.

Yuri Bezmenov Model (Psychological Warfare)
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 6:54 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30152 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:48 pm to
And now Trump and JD have all the political cover you could ever need to go after all of these people without mercy
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70791 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:50 pm to
So you don’t think there’s ever been a martyr whose movement succeeded?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76521 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:51 pm to
Quit then. Find some barn in the middle of no where and get in your fetal position. Who cares.
Or engage in dialog and debate like our forefathers and like Charlie.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30152 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:51 pm to
MLK

If you take the time to think about the similarities and situations or the two assassinations they’re very similar
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:51 pm to
Im all.for it. I wouldn't mind them holding power for 20 years. But it would take at least 20 years and a State of Emergency to fix this system.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70791 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:52 pm to
Correct, he succeeded in separating the black community from god and ushering in Marxism to that community. He was very successful
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3905 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

Its hopeless
Since the assassination, as of this morning:

Charlie Kirk Instagram: +5,037,892 followers.
Total Followers: 11.9 million

Erika Kirk Instagram: +4,609,817 followers.
Total Followers: 5 million

Turning Point USA Instagram: +2,258,026 followers.
Total Followers: 5.7 million

Charlie Kirk Facebook: +3,007,221
Total Followers: 8.5 million

Turning Point USA Facebook: +2,960,813
Total Followers: 7.2 million

Charlie Kirk Show TikTok: +2 million followers
Total Followers: 9.3 milllion

Charlie Kirk TikTok: +1.1 million followers .
Total Followers: 4.1 million

Charlie Kirk YouTube: +910,000 subscribers.
Total Subscribers: 4.71 million

Turning Point USA YouTube: +450,000 subscribers.
Total Subscribers: 3.78 million

Charlie Kirk X/Twitter: + just over 1 million followers.
Total Followers: 5.9 million

To spare you the math, that's at least 23,333,769 new followers since the assassination. Not to mention, as of this afternoon, TPUSA has received over 54,000 requests from high school and college students nationwide to start a chapter or get involved with an existing chapter.

The left wing is done. They're dead. It's over. Sure, there will no doubt be more violence out of them, it's all they know, but every person they hurt will be just another brick sealing their tomb. So why the frick are you in here spewing black pills?

This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 7:00 pm
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22848 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:57 pm to
Gen Z is the most Republican-friendly young generation since the Eisenhower administration, and even millennials are following typical trends of mid-life conservatism.

If anyone is getting more blue, it's 70+ boomers.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3905 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

Charlie has become 1000x more powerful in death than he ever could’ve been in life if you just look around the world what is happening.

^^
This guy gets it.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:09 pm to
If that's what happens im all for it. Charlie is a martyr in my book.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3905 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:12 pm to
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If that's what happens im all for it. Charlie is a martyr in my book.

It's what is happening as we type, and he is most definitely a martyr. The collective left may as well have fired that bullet into their own heart.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23815 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:17 pm to
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I dont think there is a way.


You sound like the weak arse folks that said Trump had zero chance to win because our votes don't matter!!!
How did that turn out???
It was a fricking lie!! A cowards excuse.

Stand up and be a man, honor the sacrifices so many have made so that we could be the beacon of freedom for
the world !

Our votes do matter and can make a difference. Just open your eyes and see how much things have changed since Trump won.

Did you think the fight was over?
Did you think evil would just give up?

The phrase "God said stand up and gird your loins" is a biblical command to prepare for action, signifying readiness, strength, and intentional focus for a
divinely appointed task.

Thats our call today.... stand up and respond or be a weak bitch and whine about it..... each man's own choice to make. IMHO
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 7:18 pm
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