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re: Israel being attacked
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:15 pm to Beaver Bandit
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:15 pm to Beaver Bandit
“The Death Toll for Thai Nationals that were Killed during the Hamas Attack has risen to 21.“
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:23 pm to MrLSU
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:29 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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Airstrike on Al Wadiya house in Zawaida, Deir El Balah, central #Gaza
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:32 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
This live view of the Gaza….it looks so bad that it’s hard to tell what’s been bombed and what hasn’t. Makes you wonder where all of the money given to Palestine has gone over the years..
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:37 pm to LSUDropout
Hamas and PA leaders’ bank accounts and to pay for massive tunnel networks under Gaza and the West Bank to smuggle weapons and to do sneak attacks into Israel.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:21 am to momentoftruth87
Something is very fishy about these attacks.
How did so many breaches happen without swift responses from the IDF?
Back in the day they had it set up so that if anything moved by the fence it got alerted on, troops checked it out. Lots of tech and drones constantly monitoring the borders, and lots of troops right there. It's kind of the main reason they exist.
Has anyone explained how they have gotten so much less capable of manning a border than they were 20 years ago?
On top of this, Israel was unaware of all these Hamas operations and missiles, yet now they know where they're are so they can bomb them? If they knew where the shite was then why not bomb it before? Hamas had been working on this for a year.
How did so many breaches happen without swift responses from the IDF?
Back in the day they had it set up so that if anything moved by the fence it got alerted on, troops checked it out. Lots of tech and drones constantly monitoring the borders, and lots of troops right there. It's kind of the main reason they exist.
Has anyone explained how they have gotten so much less capable of manning a border than they were 20 years ago?
On top of this, Israel was unaware of all these Hamas operations and missiles, yet now they know where they're are so they can bomb them? If they knew where the shite was then why not bomb it before? Hamas had been working on this for a year.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 1:27 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:26 am to BeepNode
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Something is very fishy about these attacks.
How did so many breaches happen without swift responses from the IDF?
Back in the day they had it set up so that if anything moved by the fence it got alerted on, troops checked it out. Lots of tech and drones constantly monitoring the borders, and lots of troops right there. It's kind of the main reason they exist.
Has anyone explained how they have gotten so much less capable of manning a border than they were 20 years ago?
Can't remember where it was said, and I don't know if it's true - but someone said that Bibi pulled some security away from these sites to go do something else. This person suggested that once this becomes known and after some of the ire over the attacks settles down, Bibi will be run out of office. Again, I don't know if this is legit, it's just what I heard someone say on a youtube video - not a rando person, some sort of analyst type.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:35 am to POTUS2024
Who got Bibi to vacate the border which was always a hig priority in the past? There's something screwy going on here.
The compulsory service members always had to patrol the borders and they were very serious about alerting on any activity. Could be a cat or something and they'd go check it out. This was the norm for decades. Then to just pull out?
The official story is that Hamas flew drones to the border that jammed their communications and disabled their automated systems, which allowed them to sneak in. It's an inadequate explanation.
The compulsory service members always had to patrol the borders and they were very serious about alerting on any activity. Could be a cat or something and they'd go check it out. This was the norm for decades. Then to just pull out?
The official story is that Hamas flew drones to the border that jammed their communications and disabled their automated systems, which allowed them to sneak in. It's an inadequate explanation.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 1:45 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:16 am to BeepNode
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Something is very fishy about these attacks.
How did so many breaches happen without swift responses from the IDF?
The attack happened on a Jewish Holiday and many of the IDF soldiers were on leave and the outposts were manned by skeleton crews. It also happened when there was a large division within the IDF as a result of a new law that prevented the court system for being a check on the rest of the government. Thousands of IDF reservists had been saying they would not respond to a call up, 1,100 air force reservists including 400 pilots were boycotting at the time.
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Back in the day they had it set up so that if anything moved by the fence it got alerted on, troops checked it out. Lots of tech and drones constantly monitoring the borders, and lots of troops right there. It's kind of the main reason they exist.
By taking out sensors and cameras early on the left the IDF blind and with so few soldiers on duty they could not respond as they normally would.
Hamas also use a very small portion of their available fighters in the action and were likely specifically chosen from ones they felt comfortable would keep a high degree of OpSec which appears to have worked.
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On top of this, Israel was unaware of all these Hamas operations and missiles, yet now they know where they're are so they can bomb them? If they knew where the shite was then why not bomb it before? Hamas had been working on this for a year.
The war between Gaza and Israel shifts from hot to merely warm constantly. Even if Israel knew exactly where all the munitions were they were likely covered by human shields and if Israel attacked during a time of relatively calm and killed a bunch of women and children they would have had a harder time gaining the sympathy and support they have now. The timing for Hamas was likely to throw a wrench in the Saudi Arabian Israeli Security and Economic Alliance, which it seems to at least in the short term. Normalization of relations between SA and Israel is not to the benefit of Hamas or the states that supported them in their actions.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:09 am to BeepNode
quote:I'm not going to claim any type of conspiracy, but it IS sort of weird that this happens right after we see a lot of "anti-semitism is bad" commercials on TV. Really odd coincidence.
Something is very fishy about these attacks.
How did so many breaches happen without swift responses from the IDF?
Back in the day they had it set up so that if anything moved by the fence it got alerted on, troops checked it out. Lots of tech and drones constantly monitoring the borders, and lots of troops right there. It's kind of the main reason they exist.
Has anyone explained how they have gotten so much less capable of manning a border than they were 20 years ago?
I mean, I remember all sorts of political and humane-mission ads over the past 4+ decades I've paid attention to TV, and I don't recall ANY prior commercials like that. We see a bunch out of nowhere this year, priming the US population to be casually aware of it, and now we get a major event into Israel. It literally could not have been timed any better.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:20 am to Scoob
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REPORTS FROM SYRIA INDICATE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ISRAELI AIRSTRIKES IN THE VICINITY OF DAMASCUS, WITH SYRIAN AIR DEFENSES RESPONDING TO THE AGGRESSION NEAR DAMASCUS INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:22 am to Scoob
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There was a big anti-anti-semitism PSA last year(I believe) when several cases of high-melanin white supremacists were doing random attacks in Jewish neighborhoods in New York.
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I'm not going to claim any type of conspiracy, but it IS sort of weird that this happens right after we see a lot of "anti-semitism is bad" commercials on TV. Really odd coincidence. I mean, I remember all sorts of political and humane-mission ads over the past 4+ decades I've paid attention to TV, and I don't recall ANY prior commercials like that. We see a bunch out of nowhere this year, priming the US population to be casually aware of it, and now we get a major event into Israel. It literally could not have been timed any better.
There was a big anti-anti-semitism PSA last year(I believe) when several cases of high-melanin white supremacists were doing random attacks in Jewish neighborhoods in New York.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:24 am to Scoob
Israel had given 17,000 work permits to Gaza residents to work in Israel. Unfortunately many of those who received the work permits were terrorists. Thousands of them were in the country working which is why there were so many inside the country attacking the everyone.
There are several interviews were people said they knew the attackers as they worked for them or worked on the settlements
There are several interviews were people said they knew the attackers as they worked for them or worked on the settlements
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:32 am to pankReb
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high-melanin white supremacists
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:32 am to Bobby OG Johnson
You win the Internet...
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:38 am to oogabooga68
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You win the Internet...
All credit goes to the Bee
They rarely miss
Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:45 am to Bard
I read that term and immediately think of Uncle Ruckus.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:12 am to texas tortilla
Bunch of bombs falling right now in Gaza. There was also a small fishing boat that moved out between the boat on fire and the bigger one almost parallel to it. I was waiting for some rockets to go off but it looks like it just picked up some men and is now leaving.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:39 am to MFn GIMP
Bombs are coming in pretty often at the moment. Don't know what one of the targets was, but after it was hit, there was all kinds of shite flying up in the air after the bomb hit. Even saw a solar panel flipping up in the air and then falling back into the smoke.
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