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Isn't President Trump’s "deal with Putin" just the President bypassing US legal sanctions?

Posted on 10/10/26 at 10:55 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 10:55 am
I had to read the "deal' a few times to see what I was missing. If you know, please tell me.

The only thing stopping Russia from selling all the oil it could was American sanctions. Trump is lifting them. To what is Putin agreeing that wasn't already a given?

Not that it matters, but US law---Ending Importation of Russian Oil Act of 2022---prohibits the US buying any Russian oil until Russia leaves Ukraine.

Would the headline have been bad if it were simply "Trump lifts sanctions on Russia in effort to lower prices globally"?

While I'm emptying sand out of my vagina, what are the terms of "our" supposed current "deal" with Venezuela regarding what percentage we keep from selling their oil? Is it just up to the discretion of some unidentified bureaucrat? As of September, there was no publicly available audit of the funds or the disbursement process.

If anybody knows any specifics on our current (not the future development) deal with Venezuela, please let us know. Thanks






Posted by dafif
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 10:57 am to
Perhaps if Congress actually did something it might matter
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 10:57 am to
What kind of oil are we talking about?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 10:58 am to
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Not that it matters, but US law---Ending Importation of Russian Oil Act of 2022---prohibits the US buying any Russian oil until Russia leaves Ukraine.


If trump is violating the law, then i fully expect us all to be informed about it...repeatedly
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 10:58 am to
Now Trump is funding Russia in the Ukraine war? Sounds like he has betrayed his country’s national interests..
This post was edited on 10/10/26 at 10:59 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 10:58 am to
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Perhaps if Congress actually did something it might matter


You elected a President who even congressional Republicans don’t want to work with. Make it make sense.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:05 am to
What a epic retard statement but thats just daily with you
Posted by texas tortilla
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:08 am to
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I think everything trump is doing now has to do with midterms. If trump thinks putin can help him, he will use him.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:09 am to
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What kind of oil are we talking about?


The sanctions apply to any kind of oil.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:11 am to
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prohibits the US buying any Russian oil until Russia leaves Ukraine.


I think it’s aimed at U.S. businesses, not the U.S. government itself.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:11 am to
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Perhaps if Congress actually did something it might matter


Like the Epstein Files Transparency Act 1.0, there aren't any enforcement provisions in the 2022 law.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:13 am to
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Sounds like he has betrayed his country’s national interests


Your statement is based on the fallacy that Ukraine is in any way the US' national interest.
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:14 am to
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I think everything trump is doing now has to do with midterms. If trump thinks putin can help him, he will use him.
Trump is getting played like a fiddle. All you have to do is warm him up by telling him how GREAT he is. What a narcissist.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:14 am to
You need a TDS vax
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:15 am to
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I think it’s aimed at U.S. businesses, not the U.S. government itself.


Thanks, but it seems pretty clear: no Russian oil into the US...by any entity...

“All products of the Russian Federation classified under chapter 27 of the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States shall be banned from importation into the United States.”
Posted by lurking
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:17 am to
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I think everything trump is doing now has to do with midterms. If trump thinks putin can help him, he will use him.


Exactly. This really doesn’t have anything to do with choosing sides like some are trying to frame it.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:19 am to
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You elected a President who even congressional Republicans don’t want to work with. Make it make sense.



It wouldn't matter who was president, the GOP Congress are worthelss.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
12716 posts
Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:19 am to
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trump is violating the law, then i fully expect us all to be informed about it...repeatedly


He hasn't. The Treasury issued the proper permit to bypass the sanctions.

Importing Russian oil (of any type) into the US would violate US law. I don't think we need to...
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:20 am to
I haven’t read, but I bet the sovereign is exempt, it usually is.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 11:25 am to
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haven’t read, but I bet the sovereign is exempt, it usually is.


I have read it. There aren't any exemptions written into the law...but maybe there's a legal argument OUTSIDE the language of the law?

As a practical matter, it doesn't seem like we need to import Russian oil (of any kind). It was weird to see so many news reports, and little mention of the legal prohibition of importation.
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