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re: Isn't it likely that Islam has already won

Posted on 8/30/26 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 2:42 pm to
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We need the Chinese to go after the Islamists.


That’s the whole Uyghurs deal
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 3:29 pm to
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way you asked the question was with a fatalistic tone.

Fair enough. And. Honestly. I am fatalistic about it. Because I can't control what others are doing and what others are doing is a recipe for the end.

Now I am a believer in doing whatever you can control even in such a situation. You only have one life to live so you might as well.

I mean . Hell. The 300 knew they were going to lose but fought anyway to the death. You can be willing to fight AND recognize the situation at the same time
Posted by Diego Ricardo
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 3:30 pm to
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Isn't it likely that Islam has already won


To answer this question: no I don’t think Islam has “won” and, in fact, is in a bit of an existential crisis.

They’re closer to be gradually exterminated than surpassing Christianity as the dominant cultural force of humanity.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 8:36 pm to
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For most of history China has had a very insular view of the world. Islam has ALWAYS been expansionist

That’s true. But population still is not deterministic. It’s becoming less so. In the days when wars were fought by men carrying steel it mattered a lot more.
Posted by BawtHouse
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 8:52 pm to
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In the days when wars were fought by men carrying steel it mattered a lot more.


Very accurate. However, today we face the threat of governmental policy being decided by the majority. We will reach a national tipping point. Some parts of the country already have reached the tipping point.

What will the followers of Islam choose for our country try once they get to decide policy. Sharia law will be upon us, as they have stated.

What used to be decided by the swinging of steel will be decided by yays and nays.

They are playing the long game. And we are losing.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:15 pm to
That is not how they attempt victory.

They will try through political offices from town to town and city to city.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:21 pm to
Like Russia they don't tolerate Islam.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:31 pm to
This is true.

If they take over America, it will not be with violence.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:41 pm to
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Probably. The problem is Islam needs to be legislated out of this Country. It is a National security threat. But we have Cowards in our Legislature. So yes probably.


The constitution is what gives them the opening for the kill shot
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 10:01 pm to
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They are the fastest growing religion. And Islamic people have a substantially higher birth rate than the rest of the world. I'm not talking Islam versus Christianity I'm talking Islam versus everybody else. Aren't the rest of us basically breeding ourselves out of existence?


And this is precisely why Isreal is so important. Not "the Jews", but Isreal.

We have a technologically superior citizenry on their doorstep that's willing to take them on, although outnumbered. That citizenry happens to be aligned with Western values and is one of our closest, most capable allies. Completely leaving religion out of the equation, we need them to be strong and prosperous and standing as a guard dog between us and the Islamic threat. We need them to pose as a border patrol overseas, and a caretaker that culls the hurd and trims the branches when they grow too far over the fence.

Pushing them away would be a huge mistake in the long term, if you're concerned with the encroaching threat. Europe is feeling it now and will fall sooner or later. They should've cozied up to Isreal and fed them weapons and Intel to help trim the branches before reaching over their fence.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:18 am to
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What used to be decided by the swinging of steel will be decided by yays and nays.

They are playing the long game. And we are losing.

Yes, because we have been foolishly letting them into the country. A consensus is developing, even in parts of the left, that this is a bad idea. If we pinch off Islamic immigration we will eventually choke out Islam in America (and in the UK, etc). Trump is taking the steps necessary; future presidents just have to follow up.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:21 am to
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Like Russia they don't tolerate Islam.


Are you retarded?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15728 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:37 am to
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The Cure isn't reducing immigration.


The Cure is way too over the hill to do anything.

Have you seen Robert Smith lately?

He looks like somebody's country MeeMaw.
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 7:38 am
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:45 am to
Invasion of Israel / nations gathered against Jerusalem: Ezekiel 38–39 describes a coalition led by “Gog of the land of Magog” attacking a restored Israel; God intervenes dramatically. Zechariah 12–14 and Joel speak of nations coming against Jerusalem. Revelation refers to armies gathering at Armageddon (Revelation 16:16) and a final battle.

Since the 19th–20th centuries (especially in dispensationalist circles), many have mapped the Ezekiel names onto modern nations—Rosh/Meshech as Russia/Moscow, Persia as Iran, Togarmah as Turkey, etc.—and linked current Middle East tensions or alliances involving Iran, Russia, Turkey, and others to an imminent fulfillment.
Posted by Sams Crow
Idaho
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:33 am to
The freedoms baked into our constitution guarantee our eventual demise.
The cowardice in Congress merely accelerates it.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65574 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:35 am to
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Since the 19th–20th centuries (especially in dispensationalist circles), many have mapped the Ezekiel names onto modern nations—Rosh/Meshech as Russia/Moscow, Persia as Iran, Togarmah as Turkey, etc.—and linked current Middle East tensions or alliances involving Iran, Russia, Turkey, and others to an imminent fulfillment.


You’re a loon if you believe this.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:36 am to
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Isn't it likely that Islam has already won


No. But you need a Vlad.

Endeavour to set up your legacy to include living arrangements for your descendants in a location that will produce a Vlad.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:49 am to
No, it’s not true at all. Christianity has won.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21764 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:57 am to
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The Cure is increasing birth rate on one side or decreasing living rate on the other.


And who the frick do you think you are?
Posted by Sams Crow
Idaho
Member since Apr 2026
1095 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:01 am to
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As long as we keep them out of our countries, we will be fine.


Agreed, but getting public support to deport them is no mean feat. Congress hasnt shown the courage to declare their religion a political entity. Perhaps we need some reverse back door legislation, such as mandatory in depth study of quran, shedding light where it belongs. Im sure there are better ideas, but along these lines.
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 10:06 am
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