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re: Is Western culture stopping people from growing up? Kidults are all around you

Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:18 am to
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19584 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:18 am to
I actually had a soy young engineer post a complaint on our company website about me. He had been beating a dead horse of an application for six months and I finally told him, "this is bullshite and I cannot tie up anymore company personnel in providing design before a po is placed. "
He became irate and wrote his diatribe. What these young kids fail to realize is us old fckrs have been around awhile and know much more than they do...like his boss and 3 management levels above.

I mentioned it in passing while I was playing golf with the VP and chuckled about it. He was horrified and apologized profusely. That kid is no longer in the engineering field.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102783 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:39 am to
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If it were not, countries could dump all their criminals on foreign shores and refuse to take them back. Mr Hayward does not mention this.


I have bad news….
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13764 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:40 am to
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Is Western culture stopping people from growing up? Kidults are all around you


That’s an interesting theory. I mean, it totally makes sense, given how little personal responsibility they take.

But, I have long thought that our society, mainly movies, TV shows, and even commercials, have been pushing kids to grow up too fast. How many commercials have we seen young kids in adult situations? Like acting like they’re at a club instead of a 10 year old birthday party. Hollywood has done a good job of shrinking the window of innocence and tried to influence kids to try adult stuff way too early.

I don’t know…

Maybe it’s because they’re a bunch of pedos and got off on it.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:28 am to
A college intern at my office threatened to call her mom after one of her superiors told her she was on her phone too much at work. This happened last semester.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:40 am to
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How many cartoons and Disney shows have talking animals living amongst one another? A jaguar and gazelle working as police animals ? Kids are not taught reality anymore


Did the children’s cartons you watched growing up show animals mauling and eating each other?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139068 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:44 am to
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Did the children’s cartons you watched growing up show animals mauling and eating each other?
Well ...


Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49545 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:50 am to
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I can’t, and don’t think any of us can imagine a time in life where we would have gotten our mother on the phone to talk to our boss at work,

This - if it had 'work problem' the last person I'd want to talk to in his presence would be my parents ==> echos of "son, don't show your arse" comes forefront in my consciousness.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:51 am to
They were all immortal!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139068 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:53 am to
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They were all immortal!
IDK about that, but the things Roadrunner did to poor Wile E. Coyote were brutal
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:53 am to
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But, I have long thought that our society, mainly movies, TV shows, and even commercials, have been pushing kids to grow up too fast. How many commercials have we seen young kids in adult situations? Like acting like they’re at a club instead of a 10 year old birthday party. Hollywood has done a good job of shrinking the window of innocence and tried to influence kids to try adult stuff way too early.


I think it’s parenting. Some 8-10 year old girls are happy to play with Barbies while others want to be on an iPad scrolling TikTok. It has to do with the boundaries parents set (or don’t).

I think young adults got screwed big time by Covid. Many had to move home from college for a semester. Everyone was pretty isolated. So many kids are stunted because of it, but at the end of the day it boils down to parenting.

Our intern last semester who was entitled and incredibly immature has been spoiled by her mom. She grew up in NYC and moved to New Orleans to attend Xavier and her mom moved here too. The intern was super lazy, unprofessional and just had insanely unrealistic expectations about working and life.

Our intern this semester grew up in the Midwest and played D2 or 3 basketball in college. She moved to New Orleans for grad school and her parents stayed they were. She’s just way more responsible and a much better worker than last semester’s intern.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2842 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:54 am to
I have a 15 year old son. After his freshman year he asked me what classes he should take in his sophomore year. I told him “take whatever classes you see fit, you are the one that is going to live with your choices, not me.”

This year he’s taking all honors and advanced placement classes. He knows that his success is completely his responsibility. He’s embraced it.
This post was edited on 9/7/24 at 8:55 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60938 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:55 am to
This modern society produces 4 types of people

1. Broken kids from broken homes who mostly become entitled
2. Broken kids from liberal homes who become trannies, queers, and soy
3. Normal kids from normal homes who struggle because they are essentially persecuted for being Nazis and give up
4. Strong kids who overcome all the above and give the county and the system a giant middle finger.

Somewhere in there are some decent employees. Good luck.
This post was edited on 9/7/24 at 8:56 am
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37326 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:57 am to
My boss is a millenial (almost a damn Zoomer) and he'd fire someone without batting an eye if they pulled this shite. He has no problem pulling the trigger when needed. I'm 55, old enough to be his dad and I respect the hell out of him.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 9:07 am to
Parents have bailed out their kids too often.

If you want your kid to be well adjusted and competent, allow them to earn their own money and to handle their own business.

The competency crisis stems from parents using money to raise their children instead of actually parenting.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35334 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 9:24 am to
My barely four year old wants to do EVERYTHING himself with no help. He gets pissed if you try to help him. He drives the truck, riding mower, boat (in my lap of course, but I have to make him let me steer when he’s going astray). Has to crack eggs himself when we’re making breakfast. I’m not discouraging any of this.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8067 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 9:26 am to
The age of calculators has succeeded.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 3:26 pm to
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I lived in a small town, so the cop would have known who to call and likely even have had the number if I’d been arrested.

I’d be begging the cop to leave me locked up, would be safer.


Small farmtown kid too. My guardian was the president of the PTA. The principle had her phone number on speed dial. And used it every single time that I got into trouble. Most of the time she knew how the school was going to punish me, before I did.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
4170 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 8:30 pm to
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Ina. Qorld where if you let yournchild play outside unsupervised theres a higher chance of getting kodnapped than getting hit by a car.... how do you not hellicopter parent to an extent unleas you have a badass wife and can pump out 7 babes and have a herd to look out for one another.


Grammar and a grasp of the English language are not a strong point for you.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25919 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 9:11 pm to
Likely a multivariate cause, but one of those variables is being in “student” mode for so long.

Our brains are more “plastic” when young and learning, and now just about everyone is pushed into college and learning much longer than in decades past.

This is likely a contributing factor in the delay in maturation.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7593 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 9:16 pm to
While there is a certain stunt to young people development today, these stories are very anecdotal and most young people that I know are much further along in their work ethic, ambition, comprehension than we were (early 40s crew) at the same age

Their risk aversion is much higher and that’s the biggest difference
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