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re: Is Trump trying to Crash the Economy...
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:05 pm to Diego Ricardo
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:05 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Never thought there'd be a day where I'd pray Steve Mnuchin was walking through that door but here we are. Bessent could be that guy
Amen.
Lutnick and Navarro as the faces of this disaster would be hilarious if they weren’t killing my portfolio.
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:11 pm to RCDfan1950
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Trump is taxing the rich
That is exactly what Trump is doing and all these people with TDS filled with blind hatred can't see it for what it truly is. Inflation helps the rich. The rich assests go up in value. Trump is attempting to move wealth from Wall Street to Main Street. If these people were true leftists and stayed true to their convictions. Not people who are told what to think by the Media. They would be cheering this on.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:12 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Ol' Howie Nutlick
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:13 pm to Bunk Moreland
As long as you don't pull your money out. You will be fine. The stock market will be higher than ever in 4 - 6 months.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:16 pm to Neutral Underground
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. Inflation helps the rich
Let’s pretend you’re right (you’re not), what do you think tariffs do when it comes to inflation?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:22 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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what do you think tariffs do when it comes to inflation?
Under the specific circumstances both as they exist now, and as they develop into circumstances to come of which we simply do not exactly know at this moment in time because they haven’t happened or developed yet into whatever they’re going to develop into? O gotta tell you, I just don’t know the correct answer to that as we sit here tonight. And for sure neither do you. Or anyone else here, no matter how much they scream at the sky.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:22 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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What will tariffs do to inflation.
Tell me why you believe that tariffs will increase inflation in the long term. There are mutiple threads explaining why tariffs will bring down inflation. Why do you support other countries using tariffs and not the USA? Because that is what you are arguing for.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:22 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Every pension fund will fail
This is why we need lower interest rates. Pension funds are loaded up with CLOs and when the underlying loans refinance at a potential high interest rate payers (Big Lots, Michaels, Pet Smart, Red Lobster, and other retailers own now by private equity) will fail to make payments (declare bankruptcy...already happening) and the CLOs will fail and the pension funds will be stuck with garbage. Then the pension funds will go begging the Federal Reserve for a bailout.
This is the same shite that happened 2008 with the MBSs and CDSs. But instead of being defaults on mortgages that triggered the crisis, this time it's going to be the defaults on the loans that private equity took out on the retail establishments they now own while thy pocketing the money and the stores have to pay the loans pack and the private equity packages the loans up as a CLO investment vehicle for pension funds. A lot of the underlying loans in these CLOs are adjustable and if they adjust higher, uh oh.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:23 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Let’s pretend you’re right (you’re not), what do you think tariffs do when it comes to inflation?
Such shallow thinking.
Use and learn the word reciprocity.
Then think.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:30 pm to davyjones
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Under the specific circumstances both as they exist now, and as they develop into circumstances to come of which we simply do not exactly know at this moment in time because they haven’t happened or developed yet into whatever they’re going to develop into? O gotta tell you, I just don’t know the correct answer to that as we sit here tonight. And for sure neither do you. Or anyone else here, no matter how much they scream at the sky.
Happy Friday, my dude.
I’ve tried hard to stay away from this board and I failed tonight. I’m heading back into self exile. That said, I appreciate you saying none of us know anything for sure. If nothing else, that’s an open mind. We’re sorely lacking open minds these days.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:45 pm to LSUGrad2024
Sounds like communism.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:52 pm to Motownsix
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Following the chaos of 2020, the Biden years will be looked at as a golden age. I get that during a period of hyper affluence certain people felt left behind, but the economic bar was raised significantly.
That is ridiculous fantasy bullshite. The biden administration will never look like a golden age.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 2:58 am to Diego Ricardo
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To be honest, this graph on its own is not a great endorsement for the Trump administration's economic plan. It looks like he inherited an economic slowdown then recovery that Weekend at Biden's ate for him during his tenure between the two Trump terms. Perhaps Trump could have done nothing and left the White House in 2029 with everyone thinking he was a modestly good President on the economy albeit a bit of a social issue lightning rod. If he doesn't thread a needle on this strategy, he's going to leave office in 2029 like Hoover in 1933.
Trump strives for greatness. The bold part shows the line of thinking of someone who will never achieve it. You can't be a leader if your goal is to do nothing so that people will hate you as little as possible.
You want the status quo by your desire for Trump to continue the economic policies in place under Biden, but that's not why he was elected.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 3:00 am to TenWheelsForJesus
Desires and actual outcomes are a different story
I don't trust Trump to reorganize the entire world order and you'd be crazy to trust him with that
I don't trust Trump to reorganize the entire world order and you'd be crazy to trust him with that
Posted on 4/5/25 at 3:21 am to CamdenTiger
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Yellen/Biden screwed everyone
During Biden's term in office, the S&P 500 gained approximately 55-58%, the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose by about 39-40%, and the Nasdaq Composite increased by 46-47%.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 4:05 am to FLTech
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You still don't get the point of my graph. Where was the outrage from the media, Democrats, etc when the market tanked all throughout 22-24?
Why did you post an old and cold graph, though? You weren't making a point. You were lifting someone else's thoughts off of Twitter. Congrats on copy and paste job, though.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 4:07 am
Posted on 4/5/25 at 4:45 am to Bunk Moreland
Perhaps you should "head for the cliffs!" 
Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:05 am to SlayTime
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I think so, and it’s worth the risk. If he’s successful, Democrats & non MAGA conservatives won’t win an election for the next 3-5 cycles.
I swear, history is lost on so many of you.
Go back to Smoot Hawley, Republicans lost congress for 46 of the next 50 years.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:16 am to Dalosaqy
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During Biden's term in office, the S&P 500 gained approximately 55-58%, the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose by about 39-40%, and the Nasdaq Composite increased by 46-47%.
Is that why inflation took off because the economy was doing so great?
Posted on 4/5/25 at 5:40 am to Powerman
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I don't trust Trump to reorganize the entire world order and you'd be crazy to trust him with that
Yeah, you'd prefer Barack Obama and Klaus Schaub, P, but some of us don't think "Replacement Theory" (Note Europe and the Dem's open Border as proof) and "The Great Reset" are just 'conspiracy theory' bait for MAGA nuts and we should ignore our lying eyes. Nor do we embrace DEI and Paganism with government promoting psychotic sexual deviants dancing in the classrooms of our young children.
I can well remember when the idea of a *TRILLION* dollar deficit was mind-blowing, but then all of a sudden, via bi-partisan acceptance of the hallowed 'Omnibus Bills' (which thanks to DOGE we now know where all that dirty money was going) it became normal. And not a real problem.
This is not about money, albeit money is being used as a 'weapon' by those who seek power over people. Mexican or DC Cartels. For those who are relatively unprosperous and hope for security and are willing to abandon their freedom/independence and responsibility to work at all (many believe they should be subsidized by 'government' just because they are 'equal' via DEI ideological propaganda) they are the "dupes and useful idiots" that the Totalitarian and Godless Transnational Progressives will get rid of as the World populations are reduced. Tell me Covid was NOT cooked up in a lab and turned loose as a strategic and suspiciously TIMELY act against those who reject the Globalist Transnational Progressive Ideology (DEI at the fore) as both spiritually and worldly toxic and pernicious.
The TPs via their Deep State disciples/ops ran DC and were pushing the US toward a USD collapse and subordination to the Globalist "One World Order" of the which George HW Bush first embraced as has every POTUS since. That is not a 'conspiracy theory' it is Transnational Progressive openly-STATED conspiracy/strategy. Responsible and prosperous American citizens outside of the Fascist/totalitarian Left finally woke up when they were slapped with the perverts dangling their stuff before our kids in kindergarten class and AG Garland sic'ing the FBI on any parent who dared to show up at a school board meeting and object. Much less call it out as what it is. Demonic delusion designed to take this God-based Nation down as one of the last bastions of freedom.
This Nation either establishes our independence from economic warfare vulnerabilities and once again manufactures our CRITICAL basic life needs, or we leave ourselves open to immigration invasion (like Europe), critical goods and services blackmail attack and ultimate serfdom to Godless Rulers who don't believe in or hold any reverence for Humans as "Children of God". "By their fruits ye will know them".
To the OP, the Stock Market is reacting to the above. No more 'Omnibus' money to inflate their worth. The necessary SM 'Correction' may be painful, but it beats the hell out of the alternative.
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