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re: Is the commodification of everything a predictable outcome of capitalism?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:45 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:45 pm to 4cubbies
Surely you have statistics and citations for this ballooning incarceration rate you claim.
Also, as you know recidivism is falling some.
Ballooning. Lol
Also, as you know recidivism is falling some.
Ballooning. Lol
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 12:49 pm
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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still out-pace all the other developed, Western nations
Obviously, and we all know exactly why.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:49 pm to roadGator
Based on recidivism rates, we have too many laws, and too few consequences to breaking the law.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:50 pm to BuckeyeGoon
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Obviously, and we all know exactly why.
I think we could remove all of our incarcerated population that is black and still out-pace them all.
We have an underclass because we're more free. Freedom breeds inequality.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:50 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Is the commodification of everything a predictable outcome of capitalism?
I think it's the predictable outcome of progress.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:i would be curious to see any supporting evidence for your opinion, here
think we could remove all of our incarcerated population that is black and still out-pace them all.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm not buying that. If that were the case, then as recessions or depressions hit, we'd see spikes and crime. We don't. It's a culture issue not a have and have not issue. Government is constantly subsidizing irresponsible behavior, so we shouldn't be shocked that we get more irresponsible behavior. I know other countries subsidize it much more than we do, but that's where the culture part kicks in..
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:55 pm to Roaad
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i would be curious to see any supporting evidence for your opinion, here
Black people are about 40% of the prison population.
Multiply the rates by 0.6 to find the rest:
We're still WAY out front. By more than double.
*ETA: and that's unfair because it keeps the 13% of black people in the total population, which actually depresses that rate artificially.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:55 pm to 4cubbies
What is “ capitalism “ other than an acknowledgment of human nature- billions of people each day, making tens of billions of voluntary decisions about where and when and with whom to exchange resources.
Some will use it to commodify everything and others will use it to buy tomatoes or land or whatever they value . What a great fricking system, profitable and efficient, each individual getting to decide the best use of his money .
Some will use it to commodify everything and others will use it to buy tomatoes or land or whatever they value . What a great fricking system, profitable and efficient, each individual getting to decide the best use of his money .
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:57 pm to stuntman
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It's a culture issue
I don't disagree. I'm saying it's not a race issue.
We have a huge underclass of white people in the Lower Class Mindset (as I call it) in the US. Far more as a % of our population than in the developed West.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:57 pm to 4cubbies
quote:since you won't answer my question, i'll come down to your retarded level and actually answer your question. I'll even do you a favor and ignore world history. I'll do you another favor and ignore the penal labor system that was established on American soil by the British Empire for over 50 years before America was even founded.
What did it look like before the Civil War?
You want to know what the penal labor system looked like prior to the Civil War? It was officially formed in Auburn Prison in New York state (not in the South) in 1817. And since you're fricking stupid, I'll remind you that the Civil War started in 1861.
So, it "looked liked" prison labor on our soil for 100 years prior to the Civil War starting. And it "looked like" prison labor in America for 50 years prior the Civil War starting.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:58 pm to Padme
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How do we commoditize evil black men who should be rotting in jail?
First you get yourself a position as magistrate through DEI. Then you set up a mental health/drug diversion program that is subsidized by tax payer dollars. Next, you refer criminals before you to your very own diversion program. ?????
Profit. Commodification of criminals who should be rotting in jail.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Freedom breeds inequality
Yea. It’s “freedom”.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:59 pm to Roaad
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i would be curious to see any supporting evidence for your opinion, here
The war on drugs which led to proactive policing is the main reason.
We do love to lock people up, but we should lock up violent criminals and property criminals way longer than drug criminals.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Google AI says whites make up less than a third of the total prison population (30%)
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:01 pm to Roaad
Ask Google if there are more than 2 races in the US
However, changing what I said to what you said, 1/3 of that rate is still the highest in the developed world
*ETA: and that's comparing to their total, diverse populations creating those rates. I imagine they're over-represented by non-whites due to immigration and the associated poverty.
However, changing what I said to what you said, 1/3 of that rate is still the highest in the developed world
*ETA: and that's comparing to their total, diverse populations creating those rates. I imagine they're over-represented by non-whites due to immigration and the associated poverty.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:02 pm to CleverUserName
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Freedom breeds inequality
Yea. It’s “freedom”.
Freedom does lead to inequality of outcomes, some of us are superior to others.
But inequality of outcome isnt' "inequality" to me. Its a natural outcome. Inequality is the govt protecting one group over another.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Current incarceration rate in the US is 541 per 100,000 according to Wiki.
30% of that is 162.
Puts us around the level of Australia (157), and way better than Russia, New Zealand, and Israel.
30% of that is 162.
Puts us around the level of Australia (157), and way better than Russia, New Zealand, and Israel.
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