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re: Is the Christian God the same God of Judaism?
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:41 am to Antoninus
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:41 am to Antoninus
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Moslems don't recognize Israel, Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Messiah, Protestants don't recognize the authority of the Pope, and Baptists don't recognize each other at the liquor store.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:42 am to 4cubbies
I know religious threads are frowned upon on TD, but I do wish we had a religion board. There’s a ton of interesting discussion to be had on the topics
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:44 am to deltaland
Believe 1 Timothy 4 addresses 'add ons'...Koran, the Smith fella, etc
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 11:45 am
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:46 am to deltaland
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I know religious threads are frowned upon on TD, but I do wish we had a religion board.
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It would be dominated by Atheists who desperately want you to know they are Atheist.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:58 am to Antoninus
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Yeshua bar Yusef
The sacrificial goat sacrificed as Yahweh on the day of atonement. His twin unblemished goat Yeshua bar Abba transferred all the sins of Israel into Azazel.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:17 pm to 4cubbies
Yes both groups pray to the same desert god yahweh. As do Muslims
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:22 pm to 4cubbies
Modern Judaism bears almost no resemblance to the Judaism of the Bible, neither belief or practice.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:23 pm to deltaland
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I know religious threads are frowned upon on TD, but I do wish we had a religion board. There’s a ton of interesting discussion to be had on the topics
Agree. Everyone is behaving in this thread.
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It would be dominated by Atheists who desperately want you to know they are Atheist.
ReplyOptionsTop 10 Posted by Squirrelmeister 11/24/23 at 11:58 am to Antoninus
Exhibits A & B
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:40 pm to the808bass
quote:Well, there were at least three distinct forms of "Judaism" in the Bible ... Pre-Temple Yahwism, First Temple Yahwism and Second Temple proto-Judaism (heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism during the Exile).
Modern Judaism bears almost no resemblance to the Judaism of the Bible, neither belief or practice.
Modern Rabbinic Judaism evolved after the destruction of the Second Temple and as part of the diaspora.
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:49 pm to Antoninus
Fk off, Christian hating Hanktonius....
Tell us again how those violent muslims are less threatening than those mean ole Christians....
Tell us again how those violent muslims are less threatening than those mean ole Christians....
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:51 pm to 4cubbies
Read the book 'History of God' by Karen Armstrong
Posted on 11/24/23 at 2:50 pm to SirWinston
quote:He wanted it to happen. It HAD to happen, or there could have been no Resurrection.quote:They killed our Lord and Saviour
same God, the Jews are just still waiting for the messiah, they don't believe in the Christion one
The Sanhedrin were just playing the role that their own God (and yours) assigned to them.
If not for the Sanhedrin, there would BE NO "Christianity."
I have always been entertained by the huge number of Christians (probably a strong majority) who do not grasp this simple concept.
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 11/24/23 at 3:02 pm to SirWinston
quote:And theirs.
They killed our Lord and Saviour.
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Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.”
So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 7:49 pm to Snipe
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Is the Christian God the same God of Judaism?
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There is only one God.
One down vote.
Your daddy Satan will be proud.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:43 pm to 4cubbies
Christians, Jews and Muslims do not worship the same God; this is basic Christian theology. Anyone that says that we worship the same God is profoundly ignorant or pushing an ideological agenda.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:46 pm to the808bass
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Modern Judaism bears almost no resemblance to the Judaism of the Bible, neither belief or practice.
Actually, they’re two completely different religions.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:13 pm to OysterPoBoy
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So are the Jews going to hell? We know the Muslims are.
Yes, they will be reaped with the sickles of angels and tossed into Jesus’ winepress and smashed like grapes, there blood flowing for hundreds of miles over the earth (Revelation 14:14-20). Then the Jews will be cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15).
That’s what’s going to happen to the Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc… plus all the Christians with the wrong beliefs. What are the chances out of hundreds of Christian sects that you believe the correct theology? You’ll probably be cast into the lake of fire as well.
I think the Jehovah’s Witnesses might believe the most consistent with the Bible… namely
- One God (though they mistake Jehovah for El Elyon)
- Jesus is a created being, first to be created, subordinate to the father, and he created everything else
- observe the correct Sabbath day
- don’t observe pagan holidays like Christmas or Easter
- don’t consume blood
- subjugate women
- believe the world is about to end in their lifetime
- turn the other cheek (pacifists)
- traditional, anti-LGBTQ
- anti-science (pro-creation)
I have a certain respect for JW because I feel they pretty closely follow what the Bible actually says, even though I reject their beliefs. Maybe the JW will be the ones to avoid Jesus’ winepress and the lake of fire.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:19 am to MemphisGuy
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quote:So are the Jews going to hell? We know the Muslims are. If they don't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior they are.
We're all going to hell if we lack faith in Jesus and do not practice his works. See the Parable of the Talents.
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