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re: Is Merrick Garland an objectionable nominee?

Posted on 2/1/17 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 5:15 pm to
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I don't think he is that, and I don't want a bunch of groupthink on the SC. I would want it to tilt conservative, but have a robust group of different thinkers.

I want the same in people who work for me. If all you have is people who all think the same, that's just dumb.


This.

I don't want someone as liberal as RBG to replace RBG, but demanding a scalia type to replace her is just stupid imo. Balance on the court is good.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 5:17 pm to
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and I don't want a bunch of groupthink on the SC. I


If it's a group that thinks they want to uphold the constitution and its original intentions then I'm all for it
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 5:22 pm to
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Balance on the court is good.


This is so stupid. Democrats want to use the judges to legistlate instead of being actual judges. Democrats donnot want to balance the court they want to undermine the process.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 5:23 pm to
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Elections have consequences

So does intellectual stagnation.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 5:25 pm to
sometimes you need weird coalitions

like when you're dealing with LEO/4th amendment issues
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 5:25 pm to
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This is so stupid. Democrats want to use the judges to legistlate instead of being actual judges. Democrats donnot want to balance the court they want to undermine the process.


If you think "conservative" justices haven't expanded government reach/power then you don't really know anything about the history of the court.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 5:27 pm to
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For the next one, assuming it is one of the more liberal justices, is Garland not a viable option?


No, he is not. He is so wrong on the 2nd Amendment, words fail me.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 5:32 pm to
There is no moderate in terms of the SC. There are those that interpret the law strictly and those that rule based off their personal opinion and political bias.

The Constitution is inherently conservative. That is why "Conservative" judges are just the ones who are the strict originalists.

Im not in favor of groupthink either. Im in favor of judges with integrity that will interpret the law the way it is written instead of legistlating from the bench.

History tells us that judges will only drift away from strict literal originalist interpretation, never toward it.

Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:03 pm to
Garland? No! Who's Trump gonna nominate when Clarence Thomas retires this year? That is the question.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:09 pm to
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He's pretty moderate, especially compared to Sotomayor. I was surprised Obama nominated him to be honest.


Meh, the Dums were certain Hillary was going to win the presidency so Obama nominated Garland to tempt the GOP into voting for him because he would not be as far to the left as the person Hillary would pick.

However, the GOP didn't take the bait and now they will have a new justice of the SCOTUS who is farther to the right than Garland.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:10 pm to
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is Garland not a viable option? It would be one more case of taking air out of the Dem sails

Hell no. Air in the Dem sails? That party is taking on water. We punch a few more holes in their boat.

You must not know Dems well. They will never reciprocate. Any good will shown will be forgotten an hour later.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:12 pm to
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Who's Trump gonna nominate when Clarence Thomas retires this year?


What makes you think Clarence Thomas is going to retire this year?

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:22 pm to
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Hell no. Air in the Dem sails? That party is taking on water. We punch a few more holes in their boat.

You must not know Dems well. They will never reciprocate. Any good will shown will be forgotten an hour later.


You are absolutely right!

The Dums are shitting in their panties because they know RBG wants to retire and was just staying on the Court until after the presidential election thinking she could retire after Hillary became POTUS and Hillary would pick another far left justice to replace her.

Now RBG has to remain on the court for at least the next 4 years or until she dies which could happen while Trump is still POTUS.

If RBG does retire or dies while Trump is POTUS then the Dums know President Trump will pick another conservative justice and that means Roe vs Wade will be overturned.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:26 pm to
What is Garland's stance on the 2nd Amendment?
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:30 pm to
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Is Merrick Garland an objectionable nominee? by Ag Zwin

He is a liberal.

frick liberals.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26233 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:31 pm to
Some of you can't see past your own hostility.

Keep the SC balanced but your hand on the wheel. Keep the Congress in GOP hands, but don't make it so conservative that you become a lighting rod. Leave room for the Dems to have a token presence, but keep them marginalized.

This country is generally right of center. If you don't lurch it too far right, you can stay in control a hell of a lot longer and keep ownership of the message and direction.

Give the left reason to paint you as extreme, and you will get another Obama. The media will help them do it every time.

Play the long game.
Posted by ljhog
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:32 pm to
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He's pretty moderate, especially compared to Sotomayor.

Any justice who votes or would vote to uphold Roe is not a moderate.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16249 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:37 pm to
The farthest left that Trump should ever go with a SCOTUS nominee is someone like Hardiman, and that would only be to replace one of the truly liberal judges. If Trump wants to nominate Hardiman for RBG's spot, then fine. Even though Hardiman is a little further right than Kennedy, I would be kind of pissed if he replaced Kennedy (although I wouldn't be shocked if he does).
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:39 pm to
Republicans in the Senate chose to let the American people vote on this issue last November. And so they did.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134776 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:40 pm to
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He's pretty moderate, especially compared to Sotomayor.
Compared to Sotomayor Karl Marx is moderate....
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