re: Is Joe Rogan now a cuck like Qucker Qatarlson?

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Trump is avoiding a nuclear war a few years down the road, by taking out the radical idealoques that were making nuclear bombs and missles while chanting “ death to. America”.

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Trump withdrew the US from the JCPOA in 2018. Iran has had 7-8 years to enrich uranium at the levels needed to create a weapon.

The US bombed their enrichment facility at Fordow in 2025.

Yet, the line from this administration and Bibi is that Iran “is weeks away” from creating a weapon.

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Trump withdrew the US from the JCPOA in 2018.

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That deal wasn't serious at all. I think people that even use that as some kind of argument should be really ashamed of themselves. It also proves you don't even really know the framework of the deal.

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That deal wasn't serious at all. I think people that even use that as some kind of argument should be really ashamed of themselves. It also proves you don't even really know the framework of the deal.

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Never argued it was a “good” deal. If anything it never addressed their missile development and proxy networks. My understanding it was tu cap the amount of material that could be enriched to weapons grade.
Whether it would work long term was very questionable.

However, why didn’t they develop a weapon? If JCPOA was a “joke” and Trump’s preference for “maximum pressure” was the the most effective strategy why the need for Epic Fury.

And, guess you never answered, the strike on Fordow supposedly crippled their program. Which one is it?

Yes, Joe is still a Bernie cuck on some issues. He is buddies with Dave Smith and thinks the Israel and the Js are the most evil people on the planet and controlling Trump and the U.S...

IDS and Jtardism is rampant out there right now.

At this point i dont care what Rogan says

This has long ago stopped being cool edgy influencer stuff influencing.

Just like the other military conflicts of WW3 OMG OH NOES.

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So it makes someone a cuck to not agree with everything Trump does?

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If they're being cucks about it, yes.

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That's the thing with this Iranian regime. They thought they were untouchable and could take on the United States. This all should have happened 47 years ago when Reagan came into office. Just for the mere fact they took our people hostages.

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Trump's maximum pressure campaign would have been more effective than a regime change. How do we accomplish that without a major ground offensive? Air strikes have not taken the regime out (yet). Intel release yesterday mentioned that the regime is still intact and has control of the population.

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bullshite

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Compelling evidence you’ve provided here, wow. You’ve flipped my entire perception of this saga on its head.

Joe Rogan is unmoored from ideology. This is a sign of a shallow thinker. He’s a smart guy, though. Just don’t expect a consistent philosophy based on certitudes developed over a lifetime of thoughtful contemplation.

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it was an irrational promise and it’s childish to think that a world superpower could just say “no more wars” and all of a sudden the rest of the world is rainbows and unicorns.

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Honestly, this is probably one of the more legitimate and fair criticisms of President Trump. He often uses hyperbole and inflated statements that come back to bite him in the butt, even if things are going well. I was in a thread earlier today where people were mad at him because they "haven't seen the promised mass deportations." Well, the numbers show that Trump is on pace to out-deport Obama by 70% and Biden by 92% but terminolgy like the ones he used leaves a ton of room for interpretation and allows for disappointment where it maybe doesn't need to be.


As far as the no new wars, that's another example of not being clear in his wording. He said on the campaign trail many times that he would be willing to use military force against Iran if diplomacy failed. He also said no new wars though so what are we to make of that? I think it leans towards the specific portion where he mentioned no new forever wars and endless wars in the ME. If this Iran things spins into a multi-year issue, absolutely he deserves criticism. If Iran was being an arse in negotiations and we bomb them for a month or so to show we mean business, he did say that would be on the table during the campaign.


I suppose I'm willing to let this play out with Iran before going all in on an opinion and if it turns out to be a war that drags on for years, I'd be more than willing to criticize Trump for it.