re: Is it OK to form your own opinion on issues, or should you stick to the party line?

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I think Democrats are much less tolerant of diversity of opinion within the ranks than are MAGA. Do you disagree with that?

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If by MAGA you mean the try-hard BIRG crowd, then there isn't any difference. Any criticism of Trump is met with ad hominem attacks and the issue is typically ignored.


If you just mean people on the right who voted for Trump, I agree.

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Not at all.

But think about this. Do you really want to join an ideology that claims "we're no better than the other guy"


The right is supposed to be smarter, less reactionary, but these guys are carbon copies of progressives.

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Good points, but, personally, I don't "join" ideologies. I identify as MAGA because it's a useful way to GENERALLY describe my political philosophy. Other than my religion and my marriage, I change opinions as soon as I gain sufficient new information. Obviously, if it's an opinion that resulted from lots of research, it makes it less likely that I will change that opinion.

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I think Democrats are much less tolerant of diversity of opinion within the ranks than are MAGA. Do you disagree with that?

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I've never really thought about it. But I think people are just people.

People form their opinions based on their life experiences and the information they take in. If I lived the life of a random Democrat, and had the same input, the same parents, etc, I'd probably be a Democrat too. It's not like they're a different species or something.

Some people are open-minded enough to at least consider others' opinions. Some are not, no matter their political tribe.

By thinking he actually gives a shite one way or the other about the trans people you fear. He just uses it to get elected.

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I don't consider MAGA a tribe, mainly because, unlike Democrats (for instance) diversity of opinion is tolerated.

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Really? Say DT or any R politician is going about something the wrong way & see if you are still “tolerated”.

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Should Americans consider different points of view on issues

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wtf kind of question is this!!

the very CONCEPT of being an "American" is listening to all points of view and forming a logical opinion + continuing to keep track of the issue.

If you DON'T do that, then you are a democrat - or from a foreign culture.

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They've been conditioned to protect Trump at all cost. His opinion is their opinion.

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This is 100% nonsense.

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On this board there is only requirement, total and complete loyalty to Trump. Anyone who is conservative he doesn't like, is a RINO and everyone who may be critical of him or MAGA are just dems.

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This is so lazy and trite.

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One?

Putting Israel's priorities over the USA's

like that's just your opinion, man.

OR - are you confusing 'America's interests with Democrat initiative??

that would be the only logical explanation of your concern.

I am FAR more concerned about putting Ukraines interest over the USA's - but that was the Democrat initiative so perhaps it escaped you notice.

Ukraine has long been one of the m

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Exactly. It is my opinion, and I'm able to form one by consulting more than Republican/Establishment (and even Democrat establishment) views.

Do you think Israel has gotten decades and trillions without Democrats being on board? Do you remember our last POTUS? Was he pro-Israel? Maybe not such a Dem initiative.

Why can't we end Ukraine and Israel/USA conflicts at the same time?

Do you think Israel isn't a major conduit for feeding back to Establishment? Seriously? We send them billions, and they buy weapons from our contractors. Surely, no grift there.

But yes, my opinion is that this is not Making America Great in any way. It's Israel First.

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What to do if you disagree? Keep quiet for the "whole good"?

Speak up? So your tribe mates consider a different point of view?

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Why belong to a "tribe" to begin with?

That's the very root of the problem.

It's very simple to define me as a "conservative minarchist" but I get called a "MAGAt" and a "Trump Cultist" all the time. Trump is a Kennedy Democrat

It is what it is. If you actually struggle with the choice between expressing individualism or showing conformity with the consequences be damned, I'd suggest taking time for introspect.