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re: Is anyone here not happy that Maduro was removed?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:29 am to Zach
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:29 am to Zach
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Not knowing about Trump's plan he stated that if Venezuela ever became a free market democracy again it would become the strongest ecnomy in S. America.
Thanks for that. As for the past, it's not even theoretical. Before Chavez and socialism took over Venezuela 30 odd years ago, Venezuela WAS an economic powerhouse.
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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You realize the US has a long history of meddling with South and Central America, right? The vast majority of the time it hasn't ended well.
Not the point, you can’t compare SA to ME.
If you don’t think this changes everything for China, Russia and Iran and their ability to operate you are dense. China must have Venezuela for energy. No energy, no security, no economy. All three countries have operated freely to plan against the USA. That is now gone.
It’s good for America which is why you hate it.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:31 am to dickkellog
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fill out your profile boy, i sick of all of you posters who live nowhere and do nothing, have no age or even a favorite team for that matter.
How about you go frick your self instead? No one cares what you want. I nor anyone else posts here for your benefit.
Take your meds and pipe down.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
How many times has a regime change gone bad on Trumps watch SloFloMaduro? With him in charge this will be different because he refuses to fail
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:32 am to IvoryBillMatt
Yes… only because I know it will lead to some kid in the Army death… who wouldn’t benefit in the oil profits anyways…
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:32 am to stout
quote:That is naive.quote:I would like to think that South America is more civilized than the Middle East and North Africa, making it a silly comparison.
Removing Saddam and Ghaddafi were also great...in isolation.
Both are cultures accustomed to (and mostly comfortable with) rule by a strongman, whether he calls himself a caudillo or a sheik.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:34 am to CDawson
Okay fine, let’s just talk Central & South America. Still mostly bad.
We can all be hopeful (and we should be) but this thing is far from over and the track record is woeful.
We can all be hopeful (and we should be) but this thing is far from over and the track record is woeful.
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:34 am to CDawson
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Not the point, you can’t compare SA to ME.
The fact that there is no discernable difference in how regime changes work in the ME and SA/CA isn't the point? What?
You're trying to create a distinction in theory.
What we have learned over 100+ years is that distinction makes very little, if any, difference in action.
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If you don’t think this changes everything for China, Russia and Iran and their ability to operate you are dense. China must have Venezuela for energy. No energy, no security, no economy. All three countries have operated freely to plan against the USA. That is now gone.
Yes globalism had a big day, sure. Setting the precedent of regional/hemispherical control is something China likely welcome with Taiwan, also.
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It’s good for America which is why you hate it.
We don't know if it's good for America yet.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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THAT is the issue.
It’s a fair position, but I don’t think Saddam or any other action in the ME is comparable.
What we know about the transition plans to this point is vastly different.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:35 am to IvoryBillMatt
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I certainly don't.
You are your leftist girlfriends aren’t acting like yall are happy Maduro is out. Y’all have been crying like bitches since it’s happened. I can’t tell if most of yall are pro-communist narco-terrorist or just hate Trump
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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You realize the US has a long history of meddling with South and Central America, right? The vast majority of the time it hasn't ended well.
Trump wasn’t president.
We have a long history of drawn out wars in the Middle East and you wrongly predicted that with Iran.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:36 am to lepdagod
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Yes… only because I know it will lead to some kid in the Army death
When did this happen.
Or are you just being soft?
On a related note, which branch of the U.S. military did you serve in?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:37 am to lurking
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t’s a fair position, but I don’t think Saddam or any other action in the ME is comparable.
Then just look to our history of meddling in South/Central America
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:37 am to dgnx6
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We have a long history of drawn out wars in the Middle East and you wrongly predicted that with Iran.
I mean, SFP is enamored with the woman in charge of Venezuela now. According to him, she is far more powerful than Trump.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:38 am to Spocks Brain
Regime change attempts in South America
1954 Guatemala
1964 Brazil
1971 Bolivia
1973 Chile
1973 Uruguay
1976 Argentina
1970s Paraguay
1970s-1980s Peru
2002 Venezuela
Comparing outcomes from 50+ years ago to potential today is a silly argument IMO. Especially when we are speaking of a country that was once the wealthiest in South America and is sitting on trillions in crude oil.
1954 Guatemala
1964 Brazil
1971 Bolivia
1973 Chile
1973 Uruguay
1976 Argentina
1970s Paraguay
1970s-1980s Peru
2002 Venezuela
Comparing outcomes from 50+ years ago to potential today is a silly argument IMO. Especially when we are speaking of a country that was once the wealthiest in South America and is sitting on trillions in crude oil.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:38 am to Bourre
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You are your leftist girlfriends aren’t acting like yall are happy Maduro is out.
The same shite was flung at me on here in 2004-2005 re: Saddam, just so you know. Guess what? I was right then, despite that silliness.
It's basically on the level of a Leftist using x-ism. I'm not phased at retardation and haven't been for 20 years. It just exposes the retarded.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:39 am to 94LSU
That’s a good point. Even if Maduro has been removed, the rest of his “regime” is still there. What’s next?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:39 am to dgnx6
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t and you wrongly predicted that with Iran.
Link? Also, Iran isn't over yet.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:39 am to Bourre
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You are your leftist girlfriends aren’t acting like yall are happy Maduro is out. Y’all have been crying like bitches since it’s happened. I can’t tell if most of yall are pro-communist narco-terrorist or just hate Trump
Exhibit A of the kind of ignorant drivel that bogs down the discussion.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:39 am to jimmy the leg
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I mean, SFP is enamored with the woman in charge of Venezuela now. According to him, she is far more powerful than Trump.
Stop drinking on Sunday morning. It's the Lord's day.
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