re: Iran Threatens No More Negotiations Closure of SoH Over Israeli Attacks on Lebanon

Deny anyone their right to defend themselves.

Not a great plan.

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Its not just Iranian oil that wasnt shipping. If the SoH didnt open soon there was going to be a massive global shortage. We may have been able keep up supply for domestic use but US oil executive have been warning Trump for weeks that the price was going to start sky rocketing . You can't just shut off 20-30% of the world oil supply and pretend it wont effect everyone.

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Yet Iran was unaffected and continued whipping our nuts in the strait, with "no navy" and "no military"

When is someone going to realize that these are lies.

How about banning drone sales to Iran, punishable by heavy UN sanctions and sunk boats from that country

I’ll give Vance full credit for calling BS on this one..

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Imagine watching what the US military has done in the first four months of 2026 and being so morally bankrupt as to posit that Iran controls something we don’t choose to allow at the moment.

It’s one thing to hate Trump and root against him. It’s another to disrespect the men and women of the US military who serve through different admins in favor of a bunch of goat jumpers

America has lost wars before it's OK to admit that

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It couldn't re-open the SOH

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It absolutely could. This is a question of politics, not capability.

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1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, and their allies in the current war, by signing this MoU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final Deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and other provisions of this paragraph.

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How can anyone take this at face value? How in the hell can two countries sign anything that dictates the actions of a dozen or so other countries? Even worse, how can it dictate the actions of an organization like Hezbollah?

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Israel attacking Lebanon?

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got nothing to do with the deal

frick you morons whining about money.

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got nothing to do with the deal

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You think Israel attacking Lebanon isn't part of the deal?

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1 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war are signing this MOU to declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon and other provisions of this paragraph.

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You only have to read point 1 of the MOU to learn how wrong you were

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So tell me, How would we take out their drone and missile complexes that threaten the entire region ... Some buried 1600 ft deep without a massive ground invasion? How would we guarantee they would'nt launch at oil infrastructure in the gulf states before ground forces could penetrate. And if we could do it with out ground forces why didnt we? That would've eliminated 95% of the threat right there.

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1) what does this have to do with controlling the strait and with Iran having the capability to bring the global economy to its knees? Weren’t all these things true 4 months ago?
2) if you’re right is their ability to bring the global economy to its knees greater than or less than what it was 4 months ago
3) were you worried about these things 4 months ago? If not why not?
4) would all this have been made better if we hadn’t targeted their nuclear program? Would they have been a better world player if they obtained a nuke? Would the global economy been safer if they still had all the same capabilities and obtained a nuke?

5). You’re right Iran is the real power in this equation. They have the ability to bring the global economy to its knees and there’s nothing we can do about it. All because OMB is President.