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re: Iran Threatens No More Negotiations Closure of SoH Over Israeli Attacks on Lebanon

Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2320 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:02 pm to
Do we also tell Hezbollah and Hamas to quit firing rockets at them or is that going a little too far?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478748 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:03 pm to
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What the frick do you call it when one half of a military turns their weapons on the other half?


I know this is typically a futile effort with you, but do you have any direct, credible evidence of your claims?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478748 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:04 pm to
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you agree with SFP that Iran has the capability to bring the global economy to its knees don't you?


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“We run out of reserves at about four weeks,” Trump said in France while at the Group of Seven summit, discussing the recent memorandum of understanding with Iran. “You know, there are reserves all over the world, and we would really run out, and there’ll be a time when you wouldn’t be able to get it.”

He said it would be “bedlam” if the oil ran out.
Posted by tigervet4
Member since Sep 2006
2398 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:04 pm to
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Commanders and soldiers currently involved in the fighting in Lebanon say the Israel Defense Forces has changed its open-fire rules in recent days, reducing troops' ability to prevent and respond to Hezbollah attacks and leaving soldiers vulnerable. "

They could leave Lebanon if they don't want to be fired upon. If they retreated into their own country and were still being fired upon you might have a point.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2808 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:05 pm to
The reality is Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Israel are never going to negotiate peacefully. They can’t help themselves
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52147 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:06 pm to
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Iran is in the best position not an impossible one. they could close the strait forcing us to use all our reserves. USA kicked the hornets nest because Israel told us to and we're getting stung.
The ONLY reason is that Iran has placed all those missiles in a position where taking them out reduces the oil infrastructure of Iran into burning rubble, setting off a global economic crisis. Otherwise, we'd have already put the Iranian people in a position to take over their country.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12800 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:09 pm to
Just immediately stop funding and giving billions in weapons to Israel.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13824 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:10 pm to
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I know this is typically a futile effort with you


What's a futile effort is expecting you to ever be honest about anything. I've provided about half a dozen sources of my claims. You and bluesoy can go frick each other for all I care. If you can't see that it's going as I predicted it would, there isn't anything that can be said to show you.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65905 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:13 pm to
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What the frick do you call it when one half of a military turns their weapons on the other half?
Yeah, I don't see proof of that happening.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2682 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:18 pm to
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Vance just made it crystal clear to them that Trump, for now, is the only world leader still somewhat on their side and that they had better rethink their bullshite.




This is actually huge news and a major shift in decades long GOP policy towards Israel.
Posted by tigervet4
Member since Sep 2006
2398 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:18 pm to
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If they shut it down again we should take Kharg and the area around the straits.

Yes, send our troops withing range of their cheap as shite drones so they can spam them at us. Hope your son isn't sent.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16832 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:21 pm to
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They could leave Lebanon if they don't want to be fired upon. If they retreated into their own country and were still being fired upon you might have a point.


You're absolutely right.

I'm sure they only went into Lebanon so that Hezbollah could shoot at them.
Posted by tigervet4
Member since Sep 2006
2398 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:22 pm to
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The reality is Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Israel are never going to negotiate peacefully. They can’t help themselves

That's why everyone said it was a quagmire.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2199 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:22 pm to
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“We run out of reserves at about four weeks,” Trump said in France while at the Group of Seven summit, discussing the recent memorandum of understanding with Iran. “You know, there are reserves all over the world, and we would really run out, and there’ll be a time when you wouldn’t be able to get it.”
He said it would be “bedlam” if the oil ran out.


you keep posting the same quote expecting its some kind of defense to the ludicrous statement that you made that Iran has the ability to bring the world economy to its knees via the Strait of Hormuz.

It's one of any number of ludicrous statements you make in the course of your dozens of postings per day.

If you had a pair of balls you'd either stand behind your ludicrous positions or you would retract your ludicrous position.

Instead you post quotes from someone else that don't support your ludicrous position thereby continuing to reveal yourself as someone who shoiuld not be taken seriously in anything you have to say, regardless of how much volume you choose to clutter this room with.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4364 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:26 pm to
LMAO...now go see how much oil the USA is exporting to other countries.

The USA is NOT running out of oil. Try again.

And no, I do not think Trump fully knows what he is talking about when it comes to O&G. Case in point, he has also made comments in the past thinking oil companies can just pickup and start drilling wells right away. That is wrong for a multitude of reasons and not as easy as he makes it seem.
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 3:27 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9468 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:29 pm to
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wait till you see what happens when we take away all your remaining leverage and you can do nothing to stop it.


Their remaining leverage is the their vast supply of drones and ballistic missiles that can destroy oil, power and water infrastructure in the gulf states that we cant seem to take out. You can turn the rest of the country into rubble, take Kharg Island, arm a rebel faction....all your dream scenarios and it wont matter if they can still take 20% of the world's energy supply offline for years. Eliminating that threat will take a massive invasion of ground forces and even then they maybe able to get off enough rounds to devastate the region before we can stop them. This has been a case of mutually assured destruction for decades which is why we have tip toed around military action against them for so long. Now like a nuke strike they will only get one shot before we would destroy them but thats all it would a take to plunge the world into absolute chaos. Trump realized that too late and thought we could elminate that threat on the cheap.
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 3:32 pm
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
4801 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:29 pm to
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We will see a coup


Not happening. The IRGC has the Iranian population by the balls and isn’t afraid to use deadly force to suppress revolts.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478748 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:30 pm to
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you keep posting the same quote expecting its some kind of defense to the ludicrous statement that you made that Iran has the ability to bring the world economy to its knees via the Strait of Hormuz.


If Trump's statements are truthful, then it proves my comments.

quote:

If you had a pair of balls you'd either stand behind your ludicrous positions or you would retract your ludicrous position.

I am standing behind my position and using Trump as support for my position.

If you want to call Trump a liar, feel free.
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
91431 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:31 pm to
SlowIamrightgoddammitPro!
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23864 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 3:32 pm to
The US can lights out Iran at will if it wants.

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