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re: Iran Conflict: 1/6 8:30 pm - Trump Drafting Sanctions on Iraq

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Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41542 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:23 pm to
1 dollar. You think a $1 increase is worthy of posting?
At least wait for tomorrow when it spike more.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:24 pm to
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US Kills Qassem Soleimani, Iranian Quds Commander and PMF Chief al-Muhandis


MAGA
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:24 pm to
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The Iranians are usually pragmatic and measured in how they achieve their regional aims as well as how they foster alliances.


Because they’ve been allowed to be pragmatic and measured.

The sanctions are real and the jig is up.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:25 pm to
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Please stop posting for a while. Take 24 hours and recharge. It's going to be a long 5 years.


Put aside your emotions, and look at the responses to my posts.

The responses are emotional, not factual. And they’re not driven by any understanding of the region.

That should give you some pause.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:25 pm to
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Oil prices:


Look at the scale man. That's only a buck forty.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:25 pm to
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@LucasFoxNews
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State Department says Iran responsible for killing 608 U.S. troops during Iraq War.

Qasem Soleimani led all Iranian and Iranian-backed forces in those operations.

17% of U.S. troops killed in Iraq from 2003 to 2011 orchestrated by Iran, State Dept. says
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19615 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:25 pm to
Meh who cares. Kill one, a thousand others pop up in his place. Time to get the frick out of the mid-east and let them kill each other.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:26 pm to
It’s sad reading Twitter. So many scared people, what happened to being tough and standing behind your country. These idiots weren’t outraged at all when they stormed our embassy.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25841 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:26 pm to
Why would we tell the Russians? Giving Russia advance notice likely means they’d likely tip off the Iranians.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:27 pm to
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With no due respect, you are out of your mind.





Everything they've done this decade was based on pragmatism. They had to devote the resources to the SCW, as the connection to the Med was seen as important to the survival of the republic itself. The attacks this summer were done to show the KSA and the UAE that America was reluctant to protect them, which ended up being true. The attacks in the Gulf were done to show that they were willing to shut down shipping in the Gulf if a larger scale war were to occur. Everything they've done has been done for the purpose of achieving their regional aims. Their foreign policy apparatus is unchanged from the Shah's era, and the origins of Lebanese Shia links to the Ayatollahs begin during the Shah's era as well. Unless you completely dismantle their security state, their regional aims will always be the same.
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:27 pm to
I’m glad for the air strike and glad the dude who supplied EFPs that killed my friends is dead.

However, Not a lot of Rand Paul supporters out today. This just guarantees further escalation in the region.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23920 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:28 pm to
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Something about the timing of the terrorist intel we gave Putin a week ago make me put my money on the Russians giving Soleimani up.


How long before democrats cry about a quid pro quo?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:28 pm to
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Trump’s not a neocon, nor does he subscribe to sending pallets of money to Iran. I know this bothers you, but try looking at the situation in this light. You are a jackass


What strategic interest does war with Iran serve?

It’s neocon dogma. But what US security interest does it serve?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77261 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:29 pm to
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Put aside your emotions, and look at the responses to my posts.

The responses are emotional, not factual. And they’re not driven by any understanding of the region.

That should give you some pause.
I fully agree with you that there will be blowback.

I’m not sure how bad it will be though.

IMO, Iran will attempt something on the level of assassinating a Prime Minister or other government official of that level.

I don’t see a hot war happening without provocation on the level of them attacking a US Naval vessel in the Strait of Hormuz.

What would be very, very interesting is if the Ruskies gave him up, as some are theorizing.

The confusion that would evolve out of that would be very interesting.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 8:31 pm
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:29 pm to
Simon Tisdall of the Guardian just hit a homerun with this prognostication four days ago.

The Guardian's Top 10 Movers & Shakers for 2020!



"If anyone can stop Suleimani, it will be jealous mullahs in Tehran anxious to thwart his oft-denied political ambitions."

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77261 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:30 pm to
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What strategic interest does war with Iran serve?
You could argue “Strait of Hormuz economic” angle, but, I agree, there really isn’t one.
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But what US security interest does it serve?
If we are being honest, very little to none, IMO.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:31 pm to
How do they determine which of Soleimani sons will start banging his wives now that he’s dead. Do they pull names from a turban?
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
66966 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:31 pm to
All of these attacks you mentioned are part and parcel of why this guy needed killing. Are you Iranian?
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:31 pm to
As expected Iraqi forces are locking down the Green Zone & setting up road blocks.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:32 pm to
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If he was running point for terrorism across the middle east, that's in our interest to curtail his activities.



He was Iran’s point man for their military operations in the Middle East, and that included unconventional warfare missions.

They weren’t conducting terrorist attacks though.

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