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re: Interesting facts about slavery I'll bet you didn't know.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:23 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:23 am to NC_Tigah
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Right, but the propaganda is that whites' practice of slavery is somehow worse because "chattel slavery"
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It is worse because of the hypocrisy entailed. "All men are created equal . . ."
At least it was the White man who created a country based on that principle and then has spent over 200 years trying to live up to that principle.
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:29 am to AggieHank86
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More babbling. I have repeatedly supported bans on abortion-at-will after the current 20-week standard, have said that I am OK with 16-weeks and might be convinced to acquiesce to 12-weeks. Do you have an honest bone in your body?
Hank. I know you have an inferiority issue and need to feel important. However, if you look at the top of a post you can see to whom the poster is replying. The post which you took offense to and called me a liar about...was not in response to you. It’s not always about you, Hank.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 11:29 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:30 am to ShreveportHog94
quote:I support some level of abortion rights, but even I think that this is perhaps the dumbest argument presented by those who share (at least in part) SOME of my views on abortion.
If abortion is infanticide then you are one huge pussy for sitting by typing on a message board while it is happening in this US. So are you admitting that you are a huge pussy too scared to do anything?
Abortion opponents are working diligently across the country to curtail abortion. I may disagree with some of their stances, but I recognize and even admire their effort.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:30 am to BBONDS25
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It’s not always about you, Hank.
good luck with thatPosted on 4/10/19 at 11:31 am to AggieHank86
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Let me guess .... you are about to reference the oft-misrepresented letter in which she suggested caucusing with Black religious leaders in anticipation of misrepresentations that she might be seeking the same genocide that you are now arguing.
Is that the one she wrote in 1939 to Clarence Gable? In that letter she states: “we want to exterminate the Negro population”. I would love to hear how that letter is misrepresented. TIA.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:34 am to BBONDS25
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Is a post birth abortion infanticide or not...yes or no?
that isn't a thing and to suggest it is just further proves you have the mental capacity of a 4 year old and don't deserve a seat at the grown up table to discuss the issue.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:39 am to coachcrisp
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Slavery was common for thousands of years in many other countries.
Slavery still happens in Africa.
I remember reading a 1935 travel book by Richard Halliburton and how slavery was so common in Africa then, he bought a slave in Timbuktu.
Western Civilization outlawed slavery, the rest of the world did not.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 11:40 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:39 am to BBONDS25
quote:If you have actually read her autobiography (which I rather doubt), you are aware that she was not a particularly good or precise writer.
Is that the one she wrote in 1939 to Clarence Gable? In that letter she states: “we want to exterminate the Negro population”.
Yes, that is a cherry-picked phrase from the letter in question. In greater context:
quote:In context, it is painfully-obvious that she wanted to retain the services of influential members of the Black community, in anticipation of and in order to COUNTERACT exactly the misinformation that YOU are still spreading.
We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. ... We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
What she was clearly SAYING was “We do not want anyone to misinterpret our provision of birth control (NOT “abortion”) services as an indication that we want to exterminate the Negro population, so let’s enlist some Black preachers who can help explain our ACTUAL goals, when militant members of the Black community start telling that sort of outrageous lie.”
Of course, she was writing to someone who fully understood that she had no such goal, so the letter was not filled with CYA language.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:21 pm to BBONDS25
Lmao
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:43 pm to coachcrisp
Slave trade was made illegal in the US in 1800
Only 5% of slaves imported to the western hemisphere ended up in the US
Only 5% of slaves imported to the western hemisphere ended up in the US
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:54 pm to ShreveportHog94
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that isn't a thing
Your ignorance of the policy stances of your party leaders does not change them.
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mental capacity of a 4 year old and don't deserve a seat at the grown up table to discuss the issu
Nancy Pelosi will be sad to hear your thoughts on her.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:56 pm to AggieHank86
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In context, it is painfully-obvious that she wanted to retain the services of influential members of the Black community, in anticipation of and in order to COUNTERACT exactly the misinformation that YOU are still spreading.
It in no way does that. It states they don’t want word of their true intentions to get out. What basis do you have to assert she meant the complete opposite of what she said?
I absolutely love that you are defending Sanger. It’s too perfect.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:57 pm to MrCarton
Surprised to see you in a race thread.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:05 pm to ShreveportHog94
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Literally the 1st two I looked at were disproven.
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The first legal slave owner in American history was a black tobacco farmer named Anthony Johnson.
Possibly true. The wording of the statement is important. Anthony Johnson was not the first slave owner in American history, but he was, according to historians, among the first to have his lifetime ownership of a servant legally sanctioned by a court.
A former indentured servant himself, Anthony Johnson was a “free negro” who owned a 250-acre farm in Virginia during the 1650s, with five indentured servants under contract to him. One of them, a black man named John Casor, claimed that his term of service had expired years earlier and Johnson was holding him illegally. In 1654, a civil court found that Johnson in fact owned Casor’s services for life, an outcome historian R Halliburton Jr. calls “one of the first known legal sanctions of slavery — other than as a punishment for crime.”
Snopes.com
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:05 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Everyone should "defend Sanger" to some extent, at least as to voluntary birth control. I don't want to imagine what this country would look like today without its availability.
I absolutely love that you are defending Sanger.
quote:Taken in context (as opposed to your surgical extraction of a single phrase), it does not REMOTELY say the opposite. To the contrary, it is entirely consistent with the remaining content of that letter AND with the entirety of her writings and positions over a lifetime.
What basis do you have to assert she meant the complete opposite of what she said?
As I said, she was not perfect. In particular, I do have problems with her views on involuntary sterilization of the mentally retarded, etcetera.
But if you actually believe that she sought the eradication of Blacks in this country through generations of voluntary birth control, while providing exactly the SAME services to women of all ethnicities, you are simply too stupid for me to waste any further time on you.
I do not believe that you ARE that stupid, so I must assume that you are simply arguing for the sake of argument. Feel free to argue with yourself.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:09 pm to AggieHank86
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We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. ... We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
This sounds to me like she wanted to dupe some black ministers into speaking to the black population about the benefits of aborting their babies so it would cover-up the fact that she really wanted to exterminate all of the future black babies
You can say all you want that she used the wrong word when she used "exterminate" and meant to use another word, but, until you can provide some evidence that was the case, all I can do is give the word, "exterminate", it's ordinary meaning.
Did "exterminate" mean something different in her time than it means today?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:54 pm to coachcrisp
Strom. Now there's an old school dem for you. LOL! I was in Charleston visiting my daughter and her husband this past week when the greatest democrat president of them all (had he been elected) Fritz Hollingsworth from there died. He was yellow dog democrat from hell dog cussing the Bushes, even Reagan some and decried Carter for being weak. But he would backslide on the Negro issue from time to time.
He had one issue he always was right about and cussed Obama about too. Pay your damn bills. He raised hell about borrowing money saying we spend billions upon billions on interest and get nothing. If you ain't got the money to pay for it you don't need it. Tall, erect military man who graduated from the Citadel, fought the Japs and Germans and traded wives half way through the game and married his secretary (USC ex-beauty queen) and picked up 20 some odd years. And kept her pregnant and at home too just like number one.
He had one issue he always was right about and cussed Obama about too. Pay your damn bills. He raised hell about borrowing money saying we spend billions upon billions on interest and get nothing. If you ain't got the money to pay for it you don't need it. Tall, erect military man who graduated from the Citadel, fought the Japs and Germans and traded wives half way through the game and married his secretary (USC ex-beauty queen) and picked up 20 some odd years. And kept her pregnant and at home too just like number one.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 4:22 pm to AggieHank86
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Everyone should "defend Sanger"
Yikes.
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Taken in context (as opposed to your surgical extraction of a single phrase), it does not REMOTELY say the opposite. T
Of course it does. A plain reading of the entire passage, which you posted, shows her stating the should hire black pastors so that they will not find out their true agenda. Eliminating the negro race.
Any other interpretation is ignoring the words she wrote. You may dismiss it as her being a sloppy writer, but the words she used have plain meaning. If you want to apply a different meaning or additional context, you will need to provide your basis for doing so. Otherwise, we will just go with what she said.
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you are simply too stupid for me to waste any further time on you.
Hank...if I could buy you for what you are really worth and sell you for what you think you are worth, Id be a very rich man.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 4:54 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Another canned bullshite response.
It is worse because of the hypocrisy entailed. "All men are created equal . . ."
Muslims have scripture that tells them to love and that everyone is god's child. Guess what?
Still, to this day.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 4:56 pm to AggieHank86
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Taken in context (as opposed to your surgical extraction of a single phrase)
I am honestly asking this next question:
What was your position regarding the Candace Owens quote about Hitler?
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