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re: Interesting facts about slavery I'll bet you didn't know.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 5:05 pm to coachcrisp
Posted on 4/10/19 at 5:05 pm to coachcrisp
I'm trying to figure out what is interesting about those facts?
Is that slavery is wrong no matter what color the masters and slaves are?
Or that there are 11 pages of people not say that singular fact?
Is that slavery is wrong no matter what color the masters and slaves are?
Or that there are 11 pages of people not say that singular fact?
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 5:20 pm to BBONDS25
quote:
Of course it does. A plain reading of the entire passage, which you posted, shows her stating the should hire black pastors so that they will not find out their true agenda. Eliminating the negro race.
Any other interpretation is ignoring the words she wrote. You may dismiss it as her being a sloppy writer, but the words she used have plain meaning. If you want to apply a different meaning or additional context, you will need to provide your basis for doing so. Otherwise, we will just go with what she said.
I just told Hank basically the same thing a few posts above yours.
I'm sure he knows we are both right so he'll probably just ignore us like all sore loser lefties do when they are confronted with an inconvenient truth.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 5:27 pm to mahdragonz
quote:
I'm trying to figure out what is interesting about those facts?
Is that slavery is wrong no matter what color the masters and slaves are?
Or that there are 11 pages of people not say that singular fact?
There is no need to state the obvious.
The point many posters have made is slavery is not just a White man's sin.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:01 pm to 995webmaster
quote:
2. Apologist for slavery
Who's apologizing?...I've never owned a fricking slave! 
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:19 pm to coachcrisp
Lincoln put black women and children in boxcars and sent them to camps.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:31 pm to beulahland
He was also a proponent of shipping them out of the country to places where they could start their own govts. 
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:00 pm to coachcrisp
Slavery was a terrible blight on this country,but many whites came to America as indentured servants. There were injustices against many diferent nationalities. To hear some people claim that the country was built on slave labor belies the truth that this country was built by many legal immigrants that faced hardships and dicrimination.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:25 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:I think Candace Owens is a pretty girl, but otherwise a non-entity, so I have no idea what you are asking. I'll run a search and get back to you.
What was your position regarding the Candace Owens quote about Hitler?
EDIT: This one?
quote:If so, her understanding of Hitler seems a bit simplistic. His military aggressiveness was certainly not the only reason to question his leadership.
"You know, he was a National Socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay fine," she said. "The problem is he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German."
If the point you want to make is that "nationalism" is not a bad thing, I tend to distinguish between patriotism (which is perfectly OK) and nationalism (which carries undertones of aggression and often expansionism).
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:29 pm to coachcrisp
Doing versus saying.
War criminal gonna war criminal.
War criminal gonna war criminal.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:39 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:I typically respond to Barry, because I usually think he is rather bright. I usually ignore you because I believe the converse of you.
I just told Hank basically the same thing a few posts above yours.
I'm sure he knows we are both right so he'll probably just ignore us like all sore loser lefties do when they are confronted with an inconvenient truth.
You two want to read that one phrase in isolation. If it were all she wrote, I might interpret it similarly. But it was NOT all she wrote ... even in just that letter. Taken in the context of years of her writings and speeches, it is utterly clear that her meaning was NOT what you two contend she was saying. Again, I rather doubt that MLK would have accepted a Sanger Award, if Sanger were an advocate of Black genocide.
I realize that this will likely exceed your mental capacity, but the same words can have very different meanings in different contexts. I used EXACTLY the same words in my restatement of her position, and no one but a complete moron would interpret THAT sentence as advocating Black genocide. She was not advocating it, either.
For the life of me, I do not understand why you seem to hate birth control to such an extent that you formulate such a tortured interpretation of the words of a birth control advocate.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:48 pm to coachcrisp
3/4 of free blacks in South Carolina owned slaves.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:00 pm to SoulGlo
quote:Link?
3/4 of free blacks in South Carolina owned slaves.
quote:180/9000 is 2%, not 75%. If these numbers are correct, you are exaggerating by 37.5 times.
By 1850, Ellison ... was one of about 180 black slave masters in South Carolina.... With nearly 9,000 free blacks in South Carolina, that 180 made up a tiny percentage. LINK
One of us is looking at some VERY bad information.
HINT: If a statistic that you want to cite looks too fricking stupid to take seriously, you probably want to do a bit of research before you cite it.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:36 am to AggieHank86
quote:
I typically respond to Barry, because I usually think he is rather bright. I usually ignore you because I believe the converse of you.
You can believe whatever you want to believe but that doesn't mean you are correct.
You probably also believe President Trump is not rather bright.
quote:
You two want to read that one phrase in isolation. If it were all she wrote, I might interpret it similarly. But it was NOT all she wrote ... even in just that letter. Taken in the context of years of her writings and speeches, it is utterly clear that her meaning was NOT what you two contend she was saying.
You already said that in your other post, Hank.
There is no need for you to repeat yourself.
All of those writings and speeches are just part of her attempt to cover-up her real intention which was exposed in the letter that contained the word, "exterminate".
quote:
Again, I rather doubt that MLK would have accepted a Sanger Award, if Sanger were an advocate of Black genocide.
I rather doubt that Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks would have allowed themselves to be photographed next to Trump as they all were awarded the 1986 Ellis Island Medal of Honor Award if Trump is a racist as you sore loser lefties claim.
quote:
I realize that this will likely exceed your mental capacity
I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Mathematics.
What degrees do you have?
quote:
the same words can have very different meanings in different contexts
NSS.
quote:
I used EXACTLY the same words in my restatement of her position, and no one but a complete moron would interpret THAT sentence as advocating Black genocide. She was not advocating it, either.
That dog won't hunt.
The two sentences, "I want tuna that tastes good" and "I want tuna with good taste" both use the same words, "good" and "taste" but the two sentences have different meanings.
quote:
For the life of me, I do not understand why you seem to hate birth control to such an extent that you formulate such a tortured interpretation of the words of a birth control advocate.
You never answered my question which was, did the word, "exterminate" have a different meaning in her time as the meaning it has today?
BTW, I'm happy that a male birth control pill is being developed so that men now will have control over when they want to become a father not some woman who wants a baby and doesn't care if the man she is fricking wants one.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 11:11 am
Posted on 4/13/19 at 5:10 pm to ShreveportHog94
quote:...he says while making fun of people who are outraged and deeply saddened by it
If abortion is infanticide then you are one huge pussy for sitting by typing on a message board while it is happening in this US. So are you admitting that you are a huge pussy too scared to do anything?
Posted on 4/13/19 at 5:13 pm to MrCarton
quote:my word
Wrong
ceding something to someone is saying "i'll give you that point."
correcting false information is nothing like that. in fact, it's the opposite. you're making this wayyyyy harder than it is
Posted on 4/13/19 at 5:17 pm to ShreveportHog94
quote:of course it is. abortion is precisely infanticide. it is the murder of a child
that isn't a thing
Posted on 4/13/19 at 5:20 pm to ShreveportHog94
quote:no it is not. it is partially false. none of them are completely false
the 2nd one is 100% false
Posted on 4/13/19 at 6:55 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:One arguably-ambiguous letter versus a lifetime of clear writings and speeches. OK.
All of those writings and speeches are just part of her attempt to cover-up her real intention which was exposed in the letter that contained the word, "exterminate".
quote:Agreed. I REPEATEDLY say that the claims of racism are moronic. As an aside, it is nice to see a Trump fan who does NOT claim that picture comes from some NAACP ceremony.
I rather doubt that Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks would have allowed themselves to be photographed next to Trump as they all were awarded the 1986 Ellis Island Medal of Honor Award if Trump is a racist as you sore loser lefties claim.
quote:A double degree in accounting and finance magna cum laude, and a juris doctoris with honors from a top ten law school. Why?
I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Mathematics. What degrees do you have?
quote:Try again. I used EXACTLY the same words in EXACTLY the same order. The words around them simply provided more context than Sanger’s letter. My meaning was clear and unambiguous, despite the sentence containing EXACTLY the phrase that raises your hackles.
The two sentences, "I want tuna that tastes good" and "I want tuna with good taste" both use the same words, "good" and "taste" but the two sentences have different meanings.
quote:To my knowledge, it has had essentially the same meaning for hundreds of years. Let’s use it in two sentences.
You never answered my question which was, did the word, "exterminate" have a different meaning in her time as the meaning it has today?
1. We do not want the purple people to realize that we are secretly attempting to exterminate their race.
2. We do not want the purple people to form the erroneous belief that we are secretly attempting to exterminate their race.
You interpret one arguably-ambiguous phrase in one letter to say the former, despite a lifetime of words and works demonstrating the latter.
This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 4/13/19 at 8:42 pm to coachcrisp
You forgot one. There are somewhere between 20-40 million people enslaved in the world right now. Almost all of them are in Africa, or we taken from Africa to Arab countries. A large number of countries in Africa didn't make slavery illegal until late in the 20th century, and many of those do nothing to enforce
This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 4/13/19 at 8:58 pm to BestBanker
quote:
Republican President freed the slaves.
Both parties have flip flopped ideals since then. Lol
This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 8:59 pm
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