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re: Income required to be middle class in each state

Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by Sofaking2
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:58 pm to
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I wouldn’t begin to think you could live in Colorado making a paltry $62k?

Survive and live? Yes Middle class maybe not
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13175 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:06 pm to
I’m looking at properties in or near the boulder area and honestly at this point because of the crazy codes and ordinances involved would rather buy a home with a fantastic view than build.
I’m older and want to live where I want but that area ain’t cheap.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:11 pm to
Net worth would wash out all the variable…..

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:21 pm to
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Too many variables unaccounted for like household size; rural vs city vs suburban living, etc.
Ypu really don’t understand how median and percentiles work do you? Personal situations do not factor into math.

People seem to think “middle class” means “not struggling to pay bills”. But that’s not an objective criteria. I know people making mid five figures per month living paycheck to paycheck. I also know people making f mid five figure per year that live comfortably within their means and have significant savings.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19072 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:24 pm to
Well aren't you special Texas. You are now officially part of the southwest.
Posted by rickyb223
In your walls
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:29 pm to
Say what you want about the South, it’s damn affordable. If you make 100k and have an ounce of discipline, you’re golden.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16964 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:30 pm to
It says right on the graphic HOUSEHOLD income.

Also the poster above is correct. Middle class simply describes a mathematical measure of income. It has nothing to do with how comfortable people feel.

That being said, goddamn moving from LA to MN really brought me down a notch
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31550 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:34 pm to
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Go wash your ham wallet.
dear lord, leave her alone - this is a fun thread AND she is correct

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10435 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:35 pm to
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Well that’s bullshite. That is poverty level


Objectively, definitionally, it's not.

I've been trying to tell y'all that what you think "middle class" people "should" be able to afford is not what middle class people used to be able to afford.

Like the perception of what a normal body weight is, what middle class is has been distorted to the point that the average person doesn't even know what it is anymore.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10435 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:37 pm to
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People seem to think “middle class” means “not struggling to pay bills”.


They actually think it means, "Being able to buy a large house in a nice neighborhood, drive two new cars, take vacations every year, and being able to pay your bills."

When I have described what life was like growing up I have been told that we were not really middle class.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:38 pm to
How many in the south are making 100k?
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
30259 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:40 pm to
Sounds like broke on a higher level to me. Two new cars?
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
30922 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:57 pm to
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How many in the south are making 100k?


Two public school teachers can pull in $100k.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:02 pm to
The "what is middle class?" discussions on here predate Saban to Bama
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:05 pm to
Those are some wide ranges to say 40k-120k as middle class. Each end of that spectrum loves life a lot differently than the other.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20456 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:09 pm to
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Middle class simply describes a mathematical measure of income. It has nothing to do with how comfortable people feel.


Isn’t this why people focus on the quality of life for the middle class during political seasons?

There will always be a middle class when it comes to math. What it means to be middle class is a different conversation.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53694 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:19 pm to
Those are big arse ranges
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17117 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:29 pm to
Still bs, the implication of that chart was a blanket version of what middle class is. First of all they are 3 versions of middle class, lower, middle and upper. Poverty class is a standard of 15,500 for single people 20,000 married, add kids and it jumps more. But with that comes the federal & state government to extend benefits that can add substantially. You know what’s not available for the family of lower middle class 37,000 per year household income ? Those extra benefits are not nearly available, so non technically it’s same as poverty if not actually worse as it has been shown in studies that a poverty level mother of 4 not working can average 60,000 plus in cash plus benefits, again something lower middle class cannot do. Also middle class standard reaches up to 115,000 which is not even close to 37,000 standard for the same middle class definition.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59006 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:33 pm to
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Ypu really don’t understand how median and percentiles work do you? Personal situations do not factor into math.


So this is a thread to “discuss” a math formula?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32965 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:38 pm to
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How many in the south are making 100k?
Dual income couples? I imagine quite a few.
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