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Income inequality gap question from town hall

Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:02 pm
People who are prepared to prosper in this country go forward in life, in career in an upward incline in income. Imagine a growth graph line gradually going up over time...

People born without a father, born into poverty raised in an environment where education is not a priority, a rejection of authority are not ingredients for success in life and thus minimum wage type jobs are unfortunately why there's a flat line in income among poor people.

Imagine a graph line that stays flat over time... this is poverty...it grows sideways not upward


I bring this up because the president was asked about it yesterday and did not really answer the question he focused on job growth and unemployment numbers but his answer didn't really address the question of how do we address income gap inequality?

3 out of 4 black children are born into a home without a father. Is this not the issue why we will always have income gap inequality?

The question is and was asked as if the government has some magic pill or program to correct income issues among poor people.

We've got to have politicians that will speak truth into the issue.

No one wants say it...

Stop having children out of wedlock..

Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:04 pm to
You need to check your birth control privilege.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19281 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:04 pm to
The worst part of that was Stephanopoulos at the end saying "it's getting better but there is still a gap" as if the income gap between races would disappear over night.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:06 pm to
There are several things of which we may not speak:
IQ
Fatherless homes
Poor impulse control
Cultural hostility towards education
Cultural romanticization of gang culture
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:06 pm to
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People born without a father, born into poverty raised in an environment where education is not a priority, a rejection of authority are not ingredients for success in life and thus minimum wage type jobs are unfortunately why there's a flat line in income among poor people.


That's exactly where the democrat party wants to keep it for AA's.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:07 pm to
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Stop having children out of wedlock..


The reason it happens so much is because there is no longer the stigma of shame. I'm from the 1950s. A young single girl getting pregnant (and the boy refusing to marry her) was incredibly shameful for the girl and her family.
Today, the pregnancy is celebrated.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68039 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:08 pm to
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but his answer didn't really address the question of how do we address income gap inequality
There is no answer. There will always be poor people. There will always be a significant number of dysfunctional people. The gap will always grow because regardless of decade the least one can earn is 0. The most one can earn is without ceiling.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17444 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:08 pm to
The funny thing is the gap between African Americans and the general public was not as wide as it was prior to LBJ creating the welfare state. Thomas Sowell speaks about this all the time and it gets no coverage.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7705 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:11 pm to
There’s opportunities it’s whether people really want them.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17816 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

he worst part of that was Stephanopoulos at the end saying "it's getting better but there is still a gap" as if the income gap between races would disappear over night.


I wish Trump would have responded with "Steph, how about we tax your income above $1 million per year at a rate of, oh, let's say, 90%, and use that money to fund opportunity zones and education vouchers for poor families ... how's that sound, Mr $15 million per year for lying your arse off on national TV?"
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67657 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:15 pm to

get the education system out of the control of teacher's unions who only want to shut down competition.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:19 pm to
People also forget demogrpahics. Young people are at the bottom of their earnings. They will make more as their careers progress. Old people, just at retirement will be at their max.

Guess which two groups are the largest part of our population today? Retiring baby boomers and millineals just starting their careers. It exaggerates the spread.
Posted by OverseasBengal
Member since Dec 2018
1107 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

The reason it happens so much is because there is no longer the stigma of shame. I'm from the 1950s. A young single girl getting pregnant (and the boy refusing to marry her) was incredibly shameful for the girl and her family.
Today, the pregnancy is celebrated.




This thread could have ended right here because this is the correct answer folks. Our society has crumbled and its it's pretty much self inflicted
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19281 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:22 pm to
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The funny thing is the gap between African Americans and the general public was not as wide as it was prior to LBJ creating the welfare state. Thomas Sowell speaks about this all the time and it gets no coverage.


Not only that but the lowest wage average can go from 10,000 to 20,000 a 100% increase while the largest can go from 1,000,000 to 1,015,000 a 1.5% increase and the wage gape will have increased by 5000. Why does the wage gap widening matter if all wages are increasing? It's just a low IQ premise.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:24 pm to
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Cultural romanticization of gang culture



I have always said they prefer being in a "posse" than being in a marriage.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6553 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:27 pm to
Really wish he would have pounded home the fact that the majority of those inner cities the guy referenced have been run by Democrats for decades...

And as they were finally starting to dig out of the hole, China virus comes along and those same elected Democrats plunged those inner cities into thr dark ages
Posted by CredulousChowder
Boone, NC
Member since Sep 2020
161 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

There are several things of which we may not speak:
IQ
Fatherless homes
Poor impulse control
Cultural hostility towards education
Cultural romanticization of gang culture

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Punctuality
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25294 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

IQ
Fatherless homes
Poor impulse control
Cultural hostility towards education
Cultural romanticization of gang culture
And that Lyndon B Johnson called the shot.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:43 pm to
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Why does the wage gap widening matter if all wages are increasing? It's just a low IQ premise.
Because it convinces the low IQ folks that "the rich" are the source of all their problems.

Saddest things I see today are people that think hating "the rich" will solve their personal financial problems and responsibilities.

Hating "the rich" doesn't help the poor.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26654 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:04 pm to
The wealth gap, in terms of real buying power and quality of life, is smaller than it has ever been.

That's not arguable.

The difference in the life of Bill Gates and someone on welfare in the United States is more a difference of comfort and leisure/travel.

They both have a home, A/C, likely the same cell phone, access to the same television and entertainment channels, both likely have cars, access to free education, food, clean water and sewage.

In times past, the difference in a wealthy and a poor person was life and death, food or starvation, having a home or not, etc.

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