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re: Income inequality gap question from town hall

Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:03 pm to
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Back when there was actual systemic racism, the black community had lower out of wedlock birth rates and lower divorce rates than whites. They also had strong communities, thriving economically in the face of actual racism.
In the 1950s Harlem was a cultural center in NYC. Tons of mixed race activity. By the 70s it was completely segregated, and was known as the one of the most unsafe and poorest place in america. Sad.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8567 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:10 pm to
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The worst part of that was Stephanopoulos at the end saying "it's getting better but there is still a gap" as if the income gap between races would disappear over night.




It took decades, over 50 years now, of destructive policies to get to this point. The fix isn't happening overnight. Trump can get some policies rolling (he has, like enterprise zones) but he cannot work miracles overnight.

In the end we are all personally responsible for the choices we make in life and where we end up. Many people in history have risen from bad poverty, bad situations. It's hard, but if there is a place it can be done it's the USA.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14179 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:21 pm to
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That's exactly where the democrat party wants to keep it for AA's.
Did you read that on a bumper sticker, or did where you got it have any support for that statement?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14179 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:24 pm to
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Hip hop culture is a stain on humanity. It needs to be burned to the ground, erased, and forgotten by history. It is awful for black people.
So is it a symptom or a cause?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14179 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:30 pm to
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The gap will always grow because regardless of decade the least one can earn is 0. The most one can earn is without ceiling.
You think that is what income inequality is about?

How stupid can one human being be?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14179 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:37 pm to
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The funny thing is the gap between African Americans and the general public was not as wide as it was prior to LBJ creating the welfare state. Thomas Sowell speaks about this all the time and it gets no coverage.
Most people who are guilty of espousing a post hoc fallacy rarely get any coverage, unless it's negative. Sowell is no exception.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:32 pm to
So explain why more african americans are born out if wedlock now than they were before the civil rights movement?

And the proof is in the pudding, 8% of two parent homes are in poverty. 40% of single mother homes are in poverty.

It's pretty easy to make your way, graduate high school and don't have kids you can't afford.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 9:36 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14179 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 3:37 am to
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So explain why more african americans are born out if wedlock now than they were before the civil rights movement?
If I can't conclusively explain an alternate cause, does that prove that the civil rights movement is the cause of more African Americans being born out of wedlock?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 4:36 am to
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That's exactly where the democrat party wants to keep it for AA's.
Did you read that on a bumper sticker, or did where you got it have any support for that statement?
Interesting deflection.

FTR, I didn't "read that on a bumper sticker."
I read it in the Moynihan Report.

Apparently it's a source you are unfamiliar with. Otherwise you'd have not posted as you did.

The Moynihan Report identified issues responsible for Black intergenerational poverty concisely. Probably too much so, because LBJ, the most malignant racist to inhabit the WH since reconstruction, used it to identify a path to permanent Black dependence on the Democrat Party. D.P.Moynihan wrote his treatise in 1965, at the outset of LBJ's WOP programs. Black out-of-wedlock births were ~25% at that time.



And of course the trend and predictable dependency outcome which Moynihan identified remains true today. The poverty rate for single-mother families in 2018 was 34%, nearly six times that of two-parent families (6%).
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 4:39 am to
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the civil rights movement is the cause of more African Americans being born out of wedlock?
You are now conflating LBJ's "War on Poverty" with Civil Rights?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 4:47 am to
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Most people who are guilty of espousing a post hoc fallacy rarely get any coverage
Were that true, "Climate Change" would not be a "thing".
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10914 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 6:33 am to
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People born without a father


The parents fault

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born into poverty


Perhaps not the parents fault but but my question would be What are you doing to change that? or are they just accepting that as a way of life?

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raised in an environment where education is not a priority


The parents fault

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a rejection of authority


The parents fault.

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are not ingredients for success in life


I agree, but again what are the parents doing to change these situations? And blaming government and white people is not doing something to positively change their situation.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 6:45 am to
People have a right to equal opportunity, which we all have, but not equal outcomes, that depends on what one does with their opportunity.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14179 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 6:30 pm to
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the civil rights movement is the cause of more African Americans being born out of wedlock?

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You are now conflating LBJ's "War on Poverty" with Civil Rights?
I'm not conflating anything. I was responding to a post.

And what's this crap about cutting my post in half and then commenting on half of the post.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 6:32 pm to
Have you always sucked black cock ?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 6:33 pm to
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Did you read that on a bumper sticker, or did where you got it have any support for that statement?



This idiot has never heard of Moynihan
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14179 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 6:38 pm to
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That's exactly where the democrat party wants to keep it for AA's.
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Did you read that on a bumper sticker, or did where you got it have any support for that statement?
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Interesting deflection.
A complete horseshite post.

The poster I responded to made an assertion. I asked him for authority for his assertion.

Do you not know what a deflection is, or do you just roam about posting crap?
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7767 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 7:15 am to
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millineals just starting their careers.


Bruh...Us millenials are in our late 20s and 30s and 6 to 15 + years into our careers lmao.

Millenials are a lot older than anyone realizes.

The Zoomers are the ones hitting the start of their careers.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 7:18 am to
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Today, the pregnancy is celebrated.


And financially incentivized.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 7:37 am to
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Interesting deflection.

A complete horseshite post.
And ... yet another deflection.

The Moynihan Report (which you are apparently unfamiliar with) laid out in advance where LBJ's policies would take Black Americans. The policies performed exactly as intended, exactly as Moynihan predicted, and "that's exactly where the democrat party wants to keep it for AA's."
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