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re: In past discussions here about likelihood of a gun confiscation in the US

Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:30 pm to
They don’t live in reality. Their entire worldview is shaped through movies and entertainment.

As you pointed out, there is an ongoing conflict that proves without a doubt the power of a united and motivated civilian force.

Maybe we should get one of them A10’s and those pesky middle easterners will learn their lesson!
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:31 pm to
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One pass with an A-10 and your redneck militia is toast.


None of that would happen. They would simply identify who belongs to such groups and stop by your house in the morning..totally peaceful like just wanting you to come down and answer some questions. If you refused...that would be real suspicious, or, in their favorite mode, "obstructing justice."
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15857 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:34 pm to
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If you're going to send the government to kill me and my family, you better hope you've tied up all the loose ends with your own family, because you just made all of them targets.

I doubt that it will come to kicking down doors. If law enforcement receives a tip that you have firearms in your house, a single unarmed officer knocks on your door with a search warrant. If you say no, he walks away, electric and water to your house gets turned off, spike strips are deployed across your driveway, your assets are seized, and the waiting begins. After a few days, law enforcement says that they’ve determined that you’re getting electricity from a neighbor so everyone’s electricity gets turned off. Lights in the windows all night and Justin Beiber music 24x7. The police won’t have to do a thing - your neighbors will organize on NextDoor and burn you out.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
83055 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:35 pm to
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electric and water to your house gets turned off, spike strips are deployed across your driveway, your assets are seized, and the waiting begins.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31261 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:52 pm to
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LEO’s in major urban areas would frick us

LEO’s in suburban / small town / rural areas would support us

That’s probably mostly correct.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35494 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:55 pm to
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If citizens must surrender enumerated rights due to executive dicta as long as said executives maintain such edicts are for the greater good (i.e. an "emergency"), then they aren't real rights and never were to begin with.


Well you’ve been living in la la la land your entire life.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35494 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:55 pm to
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Naw man, he is a Viet Nam vet whom I deeply respect and a man whom deeply loves his country and family.




Doesn’t make him any less of a dumbass if he thinks “they” are going to take your guns
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35494 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:56 pm to
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That must be why the shite was over so quickly in Iraq and Afghanistan. Can't decide between clueless and arrogant in that last statement, but it's one of them.



21st century America is a perfect comparison with the Middle East, from a geographic, cultural, political, and military perspective. You’re right
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35494 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:58 pm to
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So stupid You’ve watched one too many war movie and now think you’re an expert on military tactics.


And once again, you’re a LARP-er who would do nothing whenever this fake situation happens
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 4:59 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:00 pm to
Both current and historical conflicts say you’re incorrect, but go ahead and keep doubling down on the stupid. It’s entertaining to me.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35494 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:00 pm to
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They don’t live in reality. Their entire worldview is shaped through movies and entertainment.


Nothing about my opinion on this is shaped by movies or entertainment.

Watching fat middle aged men spew bullshite about insurrection and gun grabs on a message board is just prime entertainment.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 5:05 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:08 pm to
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fat middle aged men




I’m 33. Prior military and in great physical condition.

Ask your wife. She’ll tell you.
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:13 pm to
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Rural law enforcement can’t fight a guerilla war in the countryside.

Urban areas either..... Look at the blm shooter in Dallas.... That sob one man, one man wrecked havoc on dallas pd.....
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13036 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:20 pm to
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Well you’ve been living in la la la land your entire life.

Supporting the concept of individual rights that exist only to the extent the executive arm of government allows at their sole discretion is literally indistinguishable from supporting a monarchy.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35494 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:23 pm to
Unfettered personal rights have never existed in any large society, in any system, ever.

There are limits, and there are reasonable restrictions. I’m so sorry you have to watch church on a live stream for a month. The restrictions will be lifted.

Rights have been restricted in this country on a daily basis for our entire existence.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77685 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:26 pm to
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Well, I think this current environment shows that is a false sense of security.


Are you saying going forward that a lot of people aren’t going to be as big of “back the blue” police advocates like we’ve seen in the past?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62465 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:32 pm to
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How delusional. One pass with an A-10 and your redneck militia is toast. Not to mention actual ground combat

Wanna see delusional? Allow me to demonstrate...

Democrats: Ypu don’t need (sic) firearms because the government will put down any rebellion. They have A-10s, tanks, and nukes.

Also Democrats: If we don’t pass UBI and eliminate income “inequality” the 99% are going to start a revolution.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35494 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:37 pm to
I’m not a democrat, I own guns and I support the second amendment. Just get a kick out of larpers who think random baws at the camp are the equivalent of middle eastern insurgent groups.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62465 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:40 pm to
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You aren’t going to do a damned thing when the APC’s full of troops show up.
Do you have any concept of scale?

There’s only 1.3 million people in the military. Total. Say half are in the US/ willing to attack US citizens. The US is roughly 3.7 million square miles. That works out to 0.18 soldiers per square mile. Roughly one soldier would have single-handedly hold 6.5 square miles of territory.

That simply isn’t going to happen with any degree of resistance. The idea of APCs running up and down the streets is... ridiculous.
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