- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:26 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:26 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
The bigger question is why the city didn’t grant them a permit in the first place if what I read in here earlier about them being denied is true.
That's a completely separate discussion from the framing of OP, though.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
For extreme Covid restrictions, which are not comparable to normal, generally applicable laws. The portion I cited was for generally applicable laws that don't interfere with sincere practice of the religion.
That's the opposite of what that case says!
It says limiting religious gatherings can only be done under extreme need by the government in good faith.
Because limiting a religious gathering is fundamental to limiting the religion itself.
Anyone can read it, the court clearly interpreted their law.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:31 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
The bigger question is why the city didn’t grant them a permit in the first place
They did grant them the permit. Leftists started threatening to riot in response and the city revoked it due to emerging safety concerns.
It's all in the article slow posted that he's been misquoting ever since.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:31 pm to GRTiger
quote:
This seems somewhat relevant
Yup...
Not impressed.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:32 pm to Sofaking2
quote:
Universally- by everyone; in every case. I’m assuming you mean this is the case just in the US and Canada? How can you possibly know the laws in every country, state, territory, etc. across the entire globe?
Are you new to this site? I might not post often, but I lurk enough to know that SFP knows everything, has no problem letting you know, and has never been wrong about anything. Although, I’m not sure how he makes money as an attorney base on the number of posts he knocks out a day, I have no doubt he is an effective one because he has an knack for always giving himself enough wiggle room in all of his arguments to give himself an out (at least in his own mind)
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Eh I’m not sure it is.
It’s all in how genuine you think Sean Feucht is.
He tried to go along to get along and get a permit which they denied
He then changes it to a church as in his mind and many if not all the attendees mind it is a worship service in which there is praise music prayer and as I mentioned many time volunteers from churches available for counseling. The “ruse” in his mind was it being classified as a concert in the first place
They then shut it down.
It’s all in how genuine you think Sean Feucht is.
He tried to go along to get along and get a permit which they denied
He then changes it to a church as in his mind and many if not all the attendees mind it is a worship service in which there is praise music prayer and as I mentioned many time volunteers from churches available for counseling. The “ruse” in his mind was it being classified as a concert in the first place
They then shut it down.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:33 pm to KCT
quote:
I say it all the time. Our ultimate fight isn't Left vs. Right or even Democrat vs. Republican. It's Good vs. Evil.
Don’t forget Jews vs gentiles
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:33 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
quote:
In other news, not one mosque in Montreal was raided by police for having a worship service or broadcasting its content on loud speakers throughout the city.
I’m sure their permits were all in perfect order!
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:34 pm to Narax
quote:
It says limiting religious gatherings
In in extreme manner of the Covid-19 restrictions. That's the limitation of the ruling. It's specific only to those extreme regulations.
quote:
Because limiting a religious gathering is fundamental to limiting the religion itself.
Re-read this:
quote:
In Hutterian, the cost imposed by the law was of a secular nature. To adhere to the religion was to forego the requirements for a valid driver’s licence. The effect of religious belief was to require alternate forms of transport. While this had the potential to breach the insularity of the community, the cost of not driving was extraneous to the religious experience itself. Persons faced with a choice between their religious tenets and the right to drive were free to choose their religious tenets. There are any number of analogous costs flowing from religious adherence. Where religious practice conflicts with another activity, the answer may be to give up the other activity, that being the cost of the religious beliefs.
I'll add more discussion of that case for you:
quote:
The seriousness of a particular limit must be judged on a case-by-case basis: Hutterian, at para. 91. The question is whether the limit leaves the adherent with a meaningful choice to follow his or her religious beliefs and practices. In Hutterian, at para. 89, the Court contemplated that religious beliefs fall along a spectrum of sorts, with some beliefs being of central sacred importance, and others being more akin to optional matters of personal choice: “Between these two extremes lies a vast array of beliefs and practices, more important to some adherents than to others.”
At issue in Hutterian was a requirement that photographs be taken for driver’s licences in the province of Alberta. This regulatory precaution was aimed at preventing fraud and identity theft. However, it posed an obstacle for the claimants, who believed that the Second Commandment prohibited them from willingly allowing a photograph to be taken of their likeness. They led evidence asserting that if members could not obtain driver’s licences, the viability of their communal lifestyle would be threatened. Yet, to be photographed for a licence offended sincerely held religious beliefs.
The constitutional analysis in Hutterian was conducted under s. 1 of the Charter, because the parties had conceded an infringement of s. 2(a). Nonetheless, the Court’s comments readily transfer to the s. 2(a) framework, as articulated in that case. The Court found that the photograph requirement imposed a cost on religious adherence but did not substantially interfere with religious adherence. It did not deprive adherents of a meaningful choice to follow or not follow the edicts of their religion. If they chose not to have their photo taken, they would not be able to obtain driver’s licences. However, they could make alternate arrangements for highway transport. This cost did not seriously affect the right to pursue their religion, even though it would “impose some financial cost on the community and depart from their tradition of being self-sufficient in terms of transport”: Hutterian, at para. 99.
Your normal, generally-applicable law. Not an extreme policy crafted out of emergency legislation like what we saw with CV19.
Your case (from the Ontario Superior Court of Justice) did not overrule the case from the Supreme Court of Canada.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:35 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
Are yall starting to finally believe that they worship Satan? No need for this just to steal your money.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:36 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
It’s all in how genuine you think Sean Feucht is.
After this story and how he reacted? I believe he's not very genuine at all.
Which is going to lead to emotional reacts b/c people see him on multiple teams they see themselves on, but that's the nature of highly polarized in/out group dynamics.
quote:
They then shut it down.
It seems like he was informed prior to the concert it was not legal.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:36 pm to GRTiger
quote:
They did grant them the permit. Leftists started threatening to riot in response and the city revoked it due to emerging safety concerns.
Because they are pussies and cowards.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:38 pm to omegaman66
Not for nothing, but it seems like this thread is conflating two different situations. The Hamas bro protest was happening in Montreal. The event Slow says was a lying ruse by those felonious Christians was supposed to have happened in BFE Nova Scotia, 40 miles outside of Halifax.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
The show went ahead despite a warning from the city that the venue, Église MR, did not have the required permit to host the event.
lol.
What sort of permit does a church need to host a singer singing inside the building?
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:39 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
This is who the Montreal mayor and police are bending the knee to.
Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:39 pm to the808bass
quote:
What sort of permit does a church need to host a singer singing inside the building?
Mr. Truth is not afraid of some deceptions and promoting ruses, I see.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:40 pm to KCT
quote:
It's Good vs. Evil.
It just so happens that evil corresponds closely with Left.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 12:40 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
I hope the terrorist supporters have their permits in order.
Popular
Back to top



1







