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re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church

Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:57 pm to
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He can’t and won’t respond to this

Swing and a miss.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:03 pm to
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On the flip side, what could occur in a church and not be considered service? It seems the recurring theme countering my points is this is exclusively up to the. Church to decide. Their building. Their rules. Laws cannot apply to them.


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Let's see if you make it 3x


It’s pathetic you keep posting this as though it’s some sort of gotcha. It’s a stupid hypothetical that has nothing to do with the discussion.

Instead of dealing with some stupid hypothetical, let’s deal with the actual event. And the actual event that took place was a Christian music event, held in a Christian Church, and attended by Christians for the purpose of worshipping Jesus Christ.

They were not there for entertainment.

They were there to worship. An act protected by both Canadian and American law.

It didn’t take place in a pubic space. Not a park, not a concert hall, not a gymnasium, not an amphitheater. It was a Church. And it was worship, not a “show.”


To argue otherwise requires a level of dishonesty, and willingness to make a complete arse of one’s self that is frankly breathtaking.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 10:10 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:04 pm to
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Yep the event took place anyway.

Not to completion, due to the legal issues involved.
keep holding that rope. they got a ticket

I noticed you cut out the reasons for the leftist trash revoking the permits. Too embarrassing for you to be in lockstep with cultural Marxists? Embrace that garbage. They even said the dudes support of Trump was a reason to cancel his dates. That's right up your alley
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:11 pm to
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In fact, this concert usurped regularly-scheduled events they DO have every week
and why would a hastily organized event be necessary?
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Feucht’s controversial views and his status as a rising star in the MAGA movement have led officials to cancel his concerts in several Canadian cities in recent days.
this is the only reason you give a shite. 36 pages of your pathological TDS. Now tell us about your life long committment to free speech and how much you abhor cancel culture Miss Bootlicker Libertarian
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 10:20 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:20 pm to
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It didn’t take place in a pubic space. Not a park, not a concert hall, not a gymnasium, not an amphitheater. It was a Church. And it was worship, not a “show.”


This is the hurdle SlowFlowOweO can't quite get over. Canadian law protects religious observance. Their own official interjected politics into the equation, not the church.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:23 pm to
You've been consistently posting in this thread for 12 hours.

Wow
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:24 pm to
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this is the only reason you give a shite. 36 pages of your pathological TDS. Now tell us about your life long committment to free speech and how much you abhor cancel culture Miss Bootlicker Libertarian


Imagine being stupid enough to claim to be a libertarian and at the same time spend literally an entire Saturday on a message board arguing how it’s OK for the state to shut down a church service because they don’t have a fictional “permit” to hold a church service.

That’s SFP in a nutshell.

ETA: he also claims to be a lawyer, yet another lie.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 10:25 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:27 pm to
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This is the hurdle SlowFlowOweO can't quite get over. Canadian law protects religious observance
obviously he has a more expert knowledge of the nuances of what actually constitutes religious observance especially as to the musical components of such activities. Clearly a ticket was an appropriate response to criminals worshipping illegally.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:32 pm to
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If we find out it's the same sets playing the same songs as his other tour dates, with nothing else changed, would you concede then that this is a concert and not a legitimate worship service of the church?


What if he uses concert and worship service interchangeably?

(He does. Like every Christian artist that focuses on the genre of worship music.)
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:34 pm to
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This motherfricker, right here, though. Poor bastard has to be the worst, most incompetent fake, pretend-internet-attorney in the history of fake, pretend-internet-attorneys- and that’s a VERY high bar considering that dumb son of a bitch Boosie also posts, here.


He’s really a lawyer. He just has the biggest ego of probably any lawyer you’ve met. So he’s still on page 37 of this thread desperately trying to win an argument he lost somewhere around p. 8.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:34 pm to
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You've been consistently posting in this thread for 12 hours.
pathological TDS. His singular unflagging raison d'etre
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:37 pm to
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argument he lost somewhere around p. 8.
he lost it exactly 11 hours ago on page 1
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posted by SlowFlowPro 

7/26/25 at 11:37am to RogerTheShrubber

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Why would a church need a permit for a singer?


You have to have permits for events universally



This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 10:39 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:41 pm to
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You're trying to spin it as just "singing", while a larger event (show, concert, etc.) would require a permit


You keep saying this.

It wasn’t a “larger event.” Their auditorium easily held the 100 people there. There was no ticketing for the event. There was no need for police to handle the concert/worship event traffic or crowd. The church already has an occupancy permit for the people attending.

There was no need for a permit. And I believe that this will be borne out by the legal events forthcoming.
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:43 pm to
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On the flip side, what could occur in a church and not be considered service? It seems the recurring theme countering my points is this is exclusively up to the. Church to decide. Their building. Their rules. Laws cannot apply to them.

I think it would have to be something commercial. Like renting out their community hall for something completely outside the remit of a church. Not Bingo by the Knights of Columbus or a kids fair by the local Christian school - but an event or exhibit that has nothing to do with the furtherance of Christianity.

If a church hosts anything within the remit of furthering Christianity (or whatever faith it espouses), it's considered "service" in the context you're asking about. A church service, a Christmas concert, a guest speaker (Christian message), a graduation (Christian school) - it's all the same. None of it would require a permit, and I bet there are thousands of churches and such events with zero permits that prove this position.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:43 pm to
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You have to have permits for events universally


I stand corrected.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:45 pm to
At any point in your Saturday insanity did you make any actual distinction between a concert and a worship service?

Are you even aware of what a worship service is?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:46 pm to
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At any point in your Saturday insanity did you make any actual distinction between a concert and a worship service?


He did not.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:46 pm to
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What if he uses concert and worship service interchangeably?


He clearly doesn't understand the contemporary Christian music scene.

Have had major Christian aritsts come through. Its a mix of concert, worship and charity.

Folks spend their time during intermissions signing up for various charaties and non profits instead of heading to the next window to double fist some alcohol.

Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:47 pm to
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He did not.


It’s absolutely clear that he thinks the worship service is the same thing as the sermon.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:48 pm to
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He’s really a lawyer. He just has the biggest ego

My take on SFP - yes, a lawyer and yes an ego, but there are a lot of professionals around here with egos (I'm probably one of them and so are you). What sets SFP apart is how much what he posts in these threads means to him. He derives something from participating in these threads that none of the rest of us could fathom.
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