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re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm not
I'm not surprised you don't understand the basic difference in what's being discussed and what I'm supporting/believe
Only retards like yourself would say a permit is needed to sing at church.
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's why people have to keep using strawmen to respond, right?
This all could have ended on page 1 by the fact that the "event" was allowed to happen without the claimed needed "permits."
The Montreal authorities clearly understood they were walking in a mine field and backed off.
You have chosen to step on dozens in this thread. To what end?
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:22 pm to Madking
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No, the opposite
Did I say "singing"? Yes or no.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I just literally, objectively proved Darth wrong
No you didn’t.
So singing songs can’t be a part of an event?
Every church service or Mass is an event.
You know that.
You are being disingenuous in attempt to be a contrarian.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That article calls it a "show" and "event", not "singing"
Point proven. Thanks Dart
Oh, the article calls it a show. So that means it’s a show, right? That settles it doesn’t it. I mean, the article said so. The media called a Christian music event at a church a show, so that means it’s a show and not a worship service. No way Christians would consider a Christian music performance in their church an act of worship. No, they’re just there for the “show”
You really are truly one stupid frick.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:36 pm to Darth_Vader
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Oh, the article calls it a show. So that means it’s a show, right? That settles it doesn’t it. I mean, the article said so. The media called a Christian music event at a church a show, so that means it’s a show and not a worship service. No way Christians would consider a Christian music performance in their church an act of worship. No, they’re just there for the “show”
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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Oh, the article calls it a show. So that means it’s a show, right?
That's kind of the crucial distinction of the discussion.
You're trying to spin it as just "singing", while a larger event (show, concert, etc.) would require a permit
That's been the discussion of this thread.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:47 pm to jimmy the leg
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So singing songs can’t be a part of an event?
You're pivoting on Darth's behalf, here.
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Every church service or Mass is an event.
But not in a way that requires a permit.
The discussion is if it became that sort of event.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:47 pm to kilo
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The Montreal authorities clearly understood they were walking in a mine field and backed off.
Yep the event took place anyway. So much for Mr akctually's all day crusade
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:48 pm to Darth_Vader
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You really are truly one stupid frick.
And yet you've dodged this 2x.
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On the flip side, what could occur in a church and not be considered service? It seems the recurring theme countering my points is this is exclusively up to the. Church to decide. Their building. Their rules. Laws cannot apply to them.
Let's see if you make it 3x
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The discussion is if it became that sort of event.
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“This show runs counter to the values of inclusion, solidarity, and respect that are championed in Montreal. Freedom of expression is one of our fundamental values, but hateful and discriminatory speech is not acceptable in Montreal,” Philippe Masse said in a statement.
“A ticket was issued because the organization violated the regulations by going ahead with the show.”
This is the hill you're going to die on
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You're trying to spin it as just "singing", while a larger event (show, concert, etc.) would require a permit
It was worship in a church. What made it a larger event? They do the same thing at the same place every week.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:49 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Yep the event took place anyway.
Not to completion, due to the legal issues involved.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:50 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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This is the hill you're going to die on
To prove the truth and prove the issues in OP I pointed out on page 1? Yes.
I'm always willing to do that.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:51 pm to texag7
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It was worship in a church
That's one side's position.
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They do the same thing at the same place every week.
They do not. I posted the scheduled events for that night that were usurped for this concert.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's kind of the crucial distinction of the discussion. You're trying to spin it as just "singing", while a larger event (show, concert, etc.) would require a permit That's been the discussion of this thread.
If the event was “larger” than the normal Sunday service, how was it held inside the same church where this congregation meets every week?
By the way, the semantics of trying to call it a “show” doesn't change the fact that a Christian musical event inside a church is indeed worship service. I use the term “singing” because that is the common vernacular used for this sort of worship service.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:55 pm to Darth_Vader
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If the event was “bigger” than the normal Sunday service, how was it held inside the same church where this congregation meets every week?
You're shifting. I said larger than singing, as in conceptual.
The distinction involve is if this was a normal worship service or an event/concert/show (whatever term that isn't "singing") that requires a permit.
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. I use the term “singing” because that is the common vernacular used for this sort of worship service
And I never did. That was the point
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a Christian musical event inside a church is indeed worship service.
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On the flip side, what could occur in a church and not be considered service? It seems the recurring theme countering my points is this is exclusively up to the. Church to decide. Their building. Their rules. Laws cannot apply to them.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They do not.
You’re saying worship doesn’t happen weekly in a church?
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:56 pm to Darth_Vader
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If the event was “larger” than the normal Sunday service, how was it held inside the same church where this congregation meets every week?
He can’t and won’t respond to this
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:57 pm to texag7
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You’re saying worship doesn’t happen weekly in a church?
They do not have concerts at their church every week
In fact, this concert usurped regularly-scheduled events they DO have every week
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:57 pm
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