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re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:48 pm to kilo
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:48 pm to kilo
Someone gave me some Chris Tomlin tickets a while back.
It was exactly that.
He said it was a night of worship.
It was in the arena on SLU’s campus. It was billed as a concert on his tour.
It’s like SFP spent all day arguing whether a pastor gives a sermon or a lecture. And one is permitted and one isn’t.
It was exactly that.
He said it was a night of worship.
It was in the arena on SLU’s campus. It was billed as a concert on his tour.
It’s like SFP spent all day arguing whether a pastor gives a sermon or a lecture. And one is permitted and one isn’t.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 10:49 pm
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:51 pm to David_DJS
You are correct.
But he never makes it to the mea culpa. It’s a wound his ego (in the psychological sense, not solely pride) cannot bear.
But he never makes it to the mea culpa. It’s a wound his ego (in the psychological sense, not solely pride) cannot bear.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:52 pm to the808bass
I honest to god think he wasted his entire Saturday because he thinks a worship service is when the preacher is preaching.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:53 pm to pankReb
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It’s absolutely clear that he thinks the worship service is the same thing as the sermon.
That would explain some of his posts. I don’t think it would explain all.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:54 pm to David_DJS
quote:the dearth of other pathological narcissists likely contributes to this
He derives something from participating in these threads that none of the rest of us could fathom.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They do not have concerts at their church every week
So nobody sings?
In fact, this concert usurped regularly-scheduled events they DO have every week
Usurped, or added to?
So NOTHING from a typical service made it onto the agenda?
How do you know this?
Links?
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Every church service or Mass is an event.
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But not in a way that requires a permit.
Exactly.
They are events, with singing in many (most) instances, and yet no permit is required.
Take your L and go to bed.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:03 pm to the808bass
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It’s like SFP spent all day arguing whether a pastor gives a sermon or a lecture.
He needs Jesus in his life. Seriously.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So what metric are you using to determine what is “acceptable” worship?
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Similar to normal services.
Normal huh?
Now you are being vague in order to save face. Pathetic.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:08 pm to Darth_Vader
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It’s pathetic you keep posting this as though it’s some sort of gotcha. It’s a stupid hypothetical
It's neither a gotcha or a hypothetical.
It's a test of the limits of your argument.
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let’s deal with the actual event. And the actual event that took place was a Christian music event, held in a Christian Church
Clearly your version is not the same as other's views on it. Hence the test of your argument that you so clearly don't want to do.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:10 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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I noticed you cut out the reasons for the leftist trash revoking the permits.
Because that's irrelevant to the discussion of this event. I've already responded to that.
Nobody disputes that a permit was not requested, and due to that one was never granted, for the event we are actually discussing.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:11 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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This is the hurdle SlowFlowOweO can't quite get over. Canadian law protects religious observance.
No I discussed this directly, even with Canadian legal rulings
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:13 pm to Darth_Vader
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Imagine being stupid enough to claim to be a libertarian and at the same time spend literally an entire Saturday on a message board arguing how it’s OK for the state to shut down a church service because they don’t have a fictional “permit” to hold a church service.
Already covered
I don't particularly like permitting as a policy preference, but in actual life, I don't think churches should get to break the laws I have to follow just because.
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That’s SFP in a nutshell.
People keep lying. I keep pointing it out. They double down on lies and avoid testing their defenses. Yes, me in a nutshell.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:14 pm to the808bass
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What if he uses concert and worship service interchangeably?
Further evidence he's attempting a ruse by conflating the 2.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:16 pm to David_DJS
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I think it would have to be something commercial. Like renting out their community hall for something completely outside the remit of a church. Not Bingo by the Knights of Columbus or a kids fair by the local Christian school - but an event or exhibit that has nothing to do with the furtherance of Christianity.
If a church hosts anything within the remit of furthering Christianity (or whatever faith it espouses), it's considered "service" in the context you're asking about. A church service, a Christmas concert, a guest speaker (Christian message), a graduation (Christian school) - it's all the same. None of it would require a permit, and I bet there are thousands of churches and such events with zero permits that prove this position.
Just to give you a chance to clarify, I didn't limit my question for permitting purposes. Laws of general applicability are much more expansive than that.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:17 pm to David_DJS
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What sets SFP apart is how much what he posts in these threads means to him. He derives something from participating in these threads that none of the rest of us could fathom.
Mostly correcting all the strawmen and blatant lies
I admit it does bug me how easily people both blatantly lie and post the stupidest responses and claim victory. DKE irks me.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Further evidence he's attempting a ruse by conflating the 2.
This is just further evidence you don’t understand how language works.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:21 pm to pankReb
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I honest to god think he wasted his entire Saturday because he thinks a worship service is when the preacher is preaching.
I did lots of other things including dinner with my wife and MIL and playing card games with both. Did a couple hours of work. Went over issues with my website and a full audit to confirm.
Thought a lot about a new Civ4 strategy I'm going to try tomorrow
Watched about 6 episodes of Rome season 1
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:21 pm to jimmy the leg
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So nobody sings?
See, this just irks me to my bones. The dishonesty or stupidity.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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noticed you cut out the reasons for the leftist trash revoking the permits.
Because that's irrelevant to the discussion of this event.
It was denied for purely political reasons. The city said as much in their statement. One group holding a purely peaceful get-together might get a violent response from unhinged radicals so shut down the peaceful group.
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I've already responded to that.
If you weren't a prententious douchebag you'd have no personality at all. Have you started any threads to announce your upcoming threads lately?
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Nobody disputes that a permit was not requested, and due to that one was never granted, for the event we are actually discussing.
Because it wasn't needed. It was private property being used for the exact use it was buolt and zoned for.
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