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re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:34 pm to somethingdifferent
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:34 pm to somethingdifferent
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So is this what the police are overlooking every week in churches?
No. They don't require that permit
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Oh, are THESE the kinds of things police are overlooking in churches each week?
Except the references to multiple permits you will have to apply for
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Special event permits are required for one-time, occasional events
Singing in church can only happen once in its existence?
Is it a monastery?
Is there a vow of silence?
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:36 pm to Narax
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It shows you haven't read the case, she very clearly outlines when a violation of religious guarantees occurs.
There is a controlling case from the Supreme Court that I have quoted them discussing.
You rejected that for reasons that still aren't clear, to rely on a decision on a law that's not relevant to the discussion from a province that's not relevant to the discussion.
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I mean you are the guy always yelling about precedent.
I quoted their analysis of the applicable precedent. The case you cited is not that.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No. They don't require that permit
And we’re back to you pretending there is a qualitative difference between a church service and what happened here.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:36 pm to the808bass
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It’s going to be impossible for you to provide because you don’t know the answer.
He knows the answer, he just doesn't like it and won't admit to it.
The answer is that Montreal has no specific regulations clearly differentiating a worship service, and a music concert held in a church.
Because they are the same thing.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The locality determines the answer to that question.
What does Montreal say is “larger?”
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How large is “larger?” You don’t know.
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The locality determines the answer to that question.
Do they do head counts at each church service?
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:37 pm to the808bass
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And we’re back to you pretending there is a qualitative difference between a church service and what happened here.
And we're back to you promoting dishonesty and lies to promote a ruse, pretending that this was a normal "worship service" even though it was part of a concert tour that both required permits at every prior stop AND required a permit for this stop on the tour.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Can you help us out and be specific about the LEO role in all of this? They overlook these events EVERY FREAKING WEEK in churches all over the place. Help us understand why they showed up to this one particular event? Is it your contention that it was actually a political rally disguised as a church service?
Religions and religious people don't get to break the laws everyone else must obey b/c of their religion
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:38 pm to Narax
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The answer is that Montreal has no specific regulations clearly differentiating a worship service, and a music concert held in a church. Because they are the same thing.
Correct.
This act was capricious and arbitrary.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:38 pm to jimmy the leg
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Do they do head counts at each church service?
Why? That's a regular occurrence and not a special event like this concert
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:38 pm to jimmy the leg
New libertarian position: sometimes you have to apply for something like a permit to do stuff that you do all the time and the government will decide if you get to and that’s ok.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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normal "worship service"
Define this
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:39 pm to jimmy the leg
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This act was capricious and arbitrary.
As I said, if these arguments were truly that strong, they should have gotten a restraining order. As we all know, you can get them that day.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:39 pm to the808bass
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New libertarian position
You're debasing yourself again.
None of this is my personal policy preferences. I thought you were smart enough to understand that.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:40 pm to jimmy the leg
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Define this
Not a stop on a concert tour, is all I need for this discussion.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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even though it was part of a concert tour that both required permits at every prior stop AND required a permit for this stop on the tour.
So he hasn’t performed on the tour yet?
(He has.)
Why did he perform the other time without a permit?
(Because he wasn’t on public land.)
Why did he apply for permits at every other stop?
(Because all the concerts were on public land.)
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:41 pm to the808bass
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New Liberaltarian position: sometimes you have to apply for something like a permit to do stuff that you do all the time and the government will decide if you get to and that’s ok.
FIFY
Slow Hoe Moe has a bad case of the “Hanks.”
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:41 pm to the808bass
quote:Those pictures don't show the smoke bombs that were thrown at the musicians by Christian bigots. I wonder what the police did about that?
There are pictures of the concert inside the church
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