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re: I'm still waiting for the logical reason we are at war with Iran - we know it isn't nukes
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:25 am to Clames
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:25 am to Clames
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That reason alone is why they should have been bombed into rubble 30 years ago. We just now have a president who takes protecting America seriously.
So Trump has been wrong for the first 5 years of his presidencies? Why did he wait if they were so dangerous? You aren't going to win that argument without throwing Trump, who campaigned on NOT fighting Iran THREE TIMES, under the bus.
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:26 am to theunknownknight
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I'd be ok with Trump saying the actual clear truth, like he did with Venezuela.
The success of the Venezuela operation left Trump thinking he could do it again. Don’t strain yourself trying to make this appear logical though.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:27 am to theunknownknight
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I’d be ok if he came out and said “we want the oil because money talks, that’s pretty much it”
He did that with Venezuela and I was ok with it
I don't think "we want their oil" is the argument so much as "we want the free flow of oil to the global market and we believe these lunatics running Iran are a threat to that" is more accurate.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:27 am to theunknownknight
It is because of nukes and the just proved that they have long range capabilities. What's so hard to understand this?
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:28 am to geoag58
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Trump was around in 1979 and understands, like anyone with a functioning brain and not afflicted with terminal TDS, the current Iranian regime cannot possess nuclear weapons.
Trump said the nukes were obliterated last year and they aren't rebuilding them
As for the bullshite 1979 narrative, Trump said repeatedly from the 1980’s to 2025, 45 years, we don't need to be in wars in the Middle East. Are you saying he suddenly got dementia?
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:30 am to theunknownknight
How are people still asking this question?
Energy
Geopolitics
China
Etc.
Energy
Geopolitics
China
Etc.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:31 am to FLTech
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It is because of nukes and the just proved that they have long range capabilities. What's so hard to understand this?
It isn't because of nukes. He and his own people said so. Take that up with them.
North Korea has nukes and had been testing rockets for YEARS. I don't see us invading over there.
Russia has long-range nukes and, we've been told, is our enemy and I don't see us over there. China, same thing. Etc etc etc
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:31 am to Django Unchained
quote:This is the answer, plus the likelihood that they would eventually acquire nuclear weapons.
I may be wrong but I believe we attacked Iran for funding terror organizations around the world. Iran may have never “directly” killed US soldiers, but they certainly have through their proxies. I believe President Trump wants to leave behind a quieter more stable world. Iran shouting death to America and death to Israel created uncertainty and instability.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:31 am to METAL
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How are people still asking this question?
Energy
Geopolitics
China
Etc.
Because Trump isn't saying these things?
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:32 am to theunknownknight
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Trump said the nukes were obliterated last year and they aren't rebuilding them
It's a fair criticism of Trump to say he is hyperbolic in his speech and uses terms like obliterated, totally, etc far too often. That's absolutely fair.
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As for the bullshite 1979 narrative, Trump said repeatedly from the 1980’s to 2025, 45 years, we don't need to be in wars in the Middle East. Are you saying he suddenly got dementia?
I think this boils down to a difference in interpretation of language. If you take Trump saying "no new wars in the middle east" as no military actions at all. then yes you'd view this is backtracking. If you interpret "no new wars i nthe middle east" as no more endless occupational wars that last years and even decades, then no he really hasn't gone back on his word. It just depends on how you interpreted his statements.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:34 am to theunknownknight
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It isn't because of nukes. He and his own people said so. Take that up with them.
North Korea has nukes and had been testing rockets for YEARS. I don't see us invading over there.
Russia has long-range nukes and, we've been told, is our enemy and I don't see us over there. China, same thing. Etc etc etc
This isn't a great argument. Of course we aren't bombing places that already have nuclear weapons. Forget if Iran has or was close to a nuke for a minute, it's not logical to say us attacking Iran to prevent them getting a nuke compares to us not attacking a place that already has them.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:35 am to Victor R Franko
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You're a child.
For asking obvious, logical questions about why we spend trillions fighting boogey men overseas to give “historic opportunities” to the middle east while our own government steals our tak dollars and screws the middle class?
Only a child questions that?
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:37 am to theunknownknight
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Trump said the nukes were obliterated last year and they aren't rebuilding them
By most accounts including international watchdogs and our gulf allies not named Israel, they weren’t even pursuing them.
If the regime survives they probably will now. Pretty similar to what happened with North Korea.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:38 am to theunknownknight
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we know it isn't nukes
According to Trump’s own words and the reports of his own administration
I guess you can go with that narrative if you're a moron.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:41 am to theunknownknight
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It isn't because of nukes. He and his own people said so.
Yeah, because Trump never exaggerates or uses hyperbole.
How have you managed to suck in enough oxygen to survive with your head up your arse for 10 years now?
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North Korea...Russia...China
Which of those is a fundamentalist theocracy with an oft stated and reiterated goal of eliminating one of their neighbors from the planet?
I'll hang up and listen.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 9:42 am
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:43 am to theunknownknight
China China China! That’s why. Israel benefits by default but what they won’t tell you is this causes a lot of pain to China.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 9:46 am
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:45 am to theunknownknight
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we know it isn't nukes
It’s nukes, twatwaffle.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:45 am to theunknownknight
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I'm still waiting for the logical reason we are at war with Iran - we know it isn't nukes
Perhaps because they've been at war with us for almost 50 years, repetitively called for the destruction of America and the death of all American citizens, and been the primary State-sponsor of terrorism in the eastern hemisphere?
Just because we've never done anything to address the problem before, doesn't mean it shouldn't be addressed at all. And frankly, I don't care for our meddling and history of interventionism, but if we're going to do something about Iran then I'd rather see it done under a President with balls (Trump) as opposed to a Democrat or a pure NeoCon.
Whether I like the situation or not is irrelevant, because Trump has given me no reason to believe he won't handle it well.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:47 am to theunknownknight
I support taking out the Iranian regime.
But if we are going to cut a deal and leave the same groups in power this operation was a waste. There are plenty of hard liners still in Iran where things won’t change.
But if we are going to cut a deal and leave the same groups in power this operation was a waste. There are plenty of hard liners still in Iran where things won’t change.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:48 am to wackatimesthree
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Which of those is a fundamentalist theocracy with an oft stated and reiterated goal of eliminating one of their neighbors from the planet?
I'll hang up and listen.
North Korea has been directly threatening the US mainland with attacks and wiping us out since 1953.
You don't remember 2017 when TRUMP was in office? All the missile tests and direct threats wanting to “wring the windpipe of the Yankees”?
From 2022-2023 there were over 100 missile test with the intent of “striking the US mainland”
Why aren't we invading there? Especially after the turmoil in South Korea?
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 9:49 am
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