re: I'm still waiting for the logical reason we are at war with Iran - we know it isn't nukes

Which has what to do with your idiotic muh Epstein bullshite?

Victim Of Retardation being?

Retarded, again

What are the thoughts on the petrodollar and this war?

Why the US Targets Iran and Venezuela

And it's influence on the value of the USD and mitigate the ballooning national debt?

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What are the thoughts on the petrodollar and this war?

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It is THE reason. The US debt creates hyperinflation or a debt spiral if the world stopped trading oil primarily in U.S. dollars. Oil sales in USD create constant global demand for dollars, which finances America’s massive deficits at low rates. Losing the petrodollar system collapses that support, sending borrowing costs and import-driven inflation soaring.

The problem is most Americans don’t understand this world-economics reality. Politically, about 25% think we’re mainly working for Israel, 25% think we’re just evil imperialists, and at least 25-40% believe it’s simply to stop Iran from becoming a direct military/nuclear threat.

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we know it isn't nukes

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I don't know how you can say that -

I truly believe it is all about the nukes - with one additional factor.

It is all about NOT allowing a fanatical, maniacal, fundamentalist 5th century ideology with a religious fervor to kill all non-believers, and worship the concept of martyrdom, in their zeal to accomplish world domination, to have nukes - with which they would be a one button push away from destroying the world.

We are lucky that North Korea does not adhere to a suicidal "religion of peace" or we'd already be destroyed.

Anyone who thinks they can 'negotiate' any rational 'peace agreement' with radical muslim terrorists has a screw loose.

There is only one solution remaining - every other approach has been tried and proven to be totally ineffective, and worse - making the situation harder to deal with in the aftermath of their failure.

I feel so sorry for the good people in Persia - who have been treated like cattle for a half century because of prior attempts to "reason with" a rabid animal.

It is time to eliminate the threat - just as we try to eliminate cancerous tumors, even if it causes great discomfort in the process, and even if it is many time ineffective ==== due to not having dealt with it in its initial stages.

This is the simplest moral decision I can think of - there are no legitimate, rational, achievable alternatives.

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Iran didn't try to coerce me to take a "vaccine" so i could keep my job, Iran doesn't tax the frick out of working Americans, Iran doesn't take that money and dole it out to politically active Marxists, Iran doesn't frick up health insurance then mandate I get a plan, Iran doesn't do much of anything to make my life worse. I can observe that their government was worse than ours and at the same time acknowledge it had no direct bearing on my way of life.

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This is sophistry - totally disregarding the vital concerns.

IF YOU THINK Iran would NOT have done every one of the ills you speak of had they had the opportunity, you are not thinking clearly.

To enumerate a bunch of failures of our own governmental failures is sophistry - it sounds good - and every one of the things you said is a true failure and needs to be addressed.

BUT - it pales in comparison to the real threat to humanity = and that threat is in allowing a maniacal branch of an already malignant religious sect to have the means of destroying the civilized world with one push of a button if they do not get total abeyance to every demand on personal dignity they issue.

These are maniacs - they have ONE motivation = kill all non-believers if they do not immediately convert to their sect.

= Period =

= end of negotiation = either comply NOW or we ALL die = got it??

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BUT - it pales in comparison to the real threat to humanity = and that threat is in allowing a maniacal branch of an already malignant religious sect to have the means of destroying the civilized world with one push of a button if they do not get total abeyance to every demand on personal dignity they issue.

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Explain how they couldn't accomplish this in the 8 years Obama was in office, the 4 years of Trump, then the next 4 years of Biden, but, they were 2 weeks away after having their facilities "obliterated" 6 months prior. It doesn't add up.

Remember when we were told Al Qaeda hared us for our freedoms, only for Bin Laden to have said they didn't, they hated us for being in their backyard all the damned time and just wanted us to leave.

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You can't justify the attack of another country based on something that country did after we attacked them.

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That was just the best current justification, we could also use all the shite they have done before as well.

Did not realize you were a terrorists as well.


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Big picture first
Since the 1979 revolution, Iran has often been accused of state-sponsored terrorism, mainly through groups like:
Hezbollah
Hamas
Palestinian Islamic Jihad
Shiite militias in Iraq
Much of Iran’s activity is indirect (proxies, funding, training) rather than direct attacks.
1970s–1980s: Foundation + hostage era
1979–1981
U.S. Embassy hostage crisis (Tehran)
52 Americans held for 444 days
Early–mid 1980s (Lebanon-heavy)
1983 U.S. Embassy bombing (Beirut) – 63 killed
1983 Marine barracks bombing (Beirut) – 241 U.S. servicemen killed
1980s Lebanon hostage crisis – dozens of Westerners kidnapped
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacking (Hezbollah-linked)

?? Pattern: creation and use of Hezbollah as a primary proxy force

1990s: Global attacks expand
Major incidents
1992 Israeli Embassy bombing (Buenos Aires) – 29 killed
1994 AMIA Jewish center bombing (Argentina) – 85 killed
1996 Khobar Towers bombing (Saudi Arabia) – 19 U.S. airmen killed
Other activity
Assassinations of dissidents abroad (e.g., Iranian Kurdish leaders in Europe)

?? Pattern: international terrorism beyond the Middle East

2000s: Iraq war + insurgency phase
Early 2000s
Support for suicide bombings in Israel (Hamas, Islamic Jihad)
Iraq War (2003–2011)
Iran-backed militias:
Used roadside bombs (EFPs)
Attacked U.S. and coalition troops
Hundreds of U.S. troop deaths attributed to these groups (U.S. estimates)
Notable incident
2007 Karbala attack – 5 U.S. soldiers killed

?? Pattern: shift toward insurgency warfare via militias

2010s: Global plots + regional proxy wars
Attempted / foiled plots
2011 plot to assassinate Saudi ambassador in Washington, D.C.
2012–2013:
Plots targeting Israeli diplomats (India, Azerbaijan)
Successful attacks
2012 Bulgaria bus bombing – Israeli tourists killed
Regional conflicts
Heavy involvement in:
Syria (supporting Assad)
Yemen (Houthis)
Iraq militias

?? Pattern: covert operations + regional war influence

2020s: Escalation, drones, global reach
Direct / proxy attacks
Rocket & drone attacks on U.S. bases (Iraq, Syria, Jordan)
2024 Jordan base attack – 3 U.S. troops killed (proxy militia)
Global plots & operations
Alleged assassination plots (e.g., against officials abroad)
Cyber + covert operations expanding
Recent (2024–2026)
The Guardian
Tangled trail probably leads from Golders Green ambulance attack to Tehran
Today
The Wall Street Journal
Iran Suspected of Directing Attacks in Europe, Creating Bogus Group to Claim Responsibility
Today
The Sun
Iran 'hiring petty criminals to carry out attacks in UK' after Jewish ambulance arson as MI5 probe Tehran terror link
Today
European authorities suspect Iran of:
Arson attacks on Jewish sites
Using criminal networks as proxies
Coordinating covert operations via fake groups

?? Pattern: hybrid warfare (cyber, proxies, covert cells, drones)

?? Important context (this matters)
Not all claims are universally agreed upon
Some come from governments (U.S., Israel, EU)
Iran denies many accusations
Many attacks are:
Indirect (via proxies)
Disputed in attribution
?? Bottom line

Across decades, the consistent themes are:

Heavy reliance on proxy groups (especially Hezbollah)
Focus on U.S., Israeli, and regional rivals
Shift from bombings ? insurgency ? hybrid warfare
Global reach (Middle East, Europe, South America, U.S.)

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Why the frick are you clowns still trying to hang this shite on Drumpf?

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maybe because one underage girl named Trump as a perp who abused her, but it seems Bhondi has "lost" the file.

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I believe President Trump wants to leave behind a quieter more stable world. Iran shouting death to America and death to Israel created uncertainty and instability.

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The only way he accomplishes that is total regime change and eliminating their nuclear fuel reserves and infrastructure. That's not happening with an air campaign alone. You think America supports an all out war with ground troops? I don't...