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re: I'm going to explain the trap set on the Census.. Mickey and friends.. come inside

Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2868 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:01 pm to
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Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53436 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:03 pm to
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Lol ok bud. If you want to ignore the “free persons” language and equate Indians to immigrants, go right ahead.


It's not me.. it's the constitution.

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The census counts total population based on bodies in households (dwellings).



Except for those not taxed.


If a person is not a citizen, they don't get to vote for federal elections. Why?

The same reason they are not to be counted.

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This big victory you think happened today didn’t.


But it did.

In fact, the SCOTUS stated it's a legal question.

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But go celebrate anyway.



I am!


Bub Light Platinums
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25294 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:06 pm to
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What am I not getting?



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and citizens of the United States,

Is an illegal a citizen?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23006 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:09 pm to
Lololol
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33856 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:10 pm to
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Lololol and then what?

It.
Does.
Nothing.


You're gonna have to explain the whole representation thing to Mickey.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15025 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:11 pm to
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Is an illegal a citizen?


Uh, no!
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23006 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:12 pm to
I’ll catch you up, we have some people drawing some interpretations on what the founders of the constitution meant when they said the census counts everyone.

It boils down to whether Indians are the same as immigrants lol.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53436 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:15 pm to
Cali has what? 53 reps??? Estimates are they will lose between 5 and 10 seats.

Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33856 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:15 pm to
Who do you think the framers were talking about when they said Indians? And do you think Indians were considered citizens at that time?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23006 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:16 pm to
They meant American Indians hahaha
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53436 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:16 pm to
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I’ll catch you up, we have some people drawing some interpretations on what the founders of the constitution meant when they said the census counts everyone.



Except for they didn't say count everyone.

Please show me where it sates count every one.


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It boils down to whether Indians are the same as immigrants lol.


No. It boils down to taxed.

Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22058 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:21 pm to
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What about citizens that weren't born here?

A + B = C. If yo know A and C, then you can use common core math to get to Y.
Posted by The deucer
Member since Apr 2018
1423 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:22 pm to

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It boils down to whether Indians are the same as immigrants lol.



“counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”

Had they just meant Indians, they would have left it at that. Due to the fact that “not taxed” is added, it shows this was the reason that Indians were not counted. Thus, those who aren’t taxed are what they are determining to not be counted. Indians just happened to be the main example of this at the time of its writing. Pretty simple.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33856 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:22 pm to
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They meant American Indians hahaha


They didn't mean American citizens?

I'll leave you to stew in your own stupidity, bye.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53436 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:23 pm to
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It boils down to whether Indians are the same as immigrants lol.


I will even give you MORE of a clue.

53 reps at 710K (set number per rep..)= 37.6 Million people. That's based on 2010 data. Cali claims there are 2.2 million people living there illegally.

If that's the case, should they not have 56 reps if all people are counted and used for representation? Yet they don't.










This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2868 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:27 pm to
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But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age,* and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.


That "other crime" would be sneaking into the country illegally!

Illegals are not to be counted for purposes of representation!

Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5702 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:30 pm to
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the census counts everyone


That’s good, we need to know many physical persons are existing in our country. The separate question of apportionment of representatives doesn’t need to solely rely on the census. #winning
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3100 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:32 pm to
Silly us. A government for citizens. What the hell are we thinking?
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:32 pm to
Dammit Mickey! He cant keep getting away with it! He just can’t!
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23006 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:33 pm to
1880 Special Census of Indians. A complete list of the tribes included in this census is found at the beginning of roll 1. There is no name index for this census. Section 8 of the census act of March 3, 1879 (20 Stat. 475), authorized the Census Bureau to enumerate all Indians not taxed; that is, those on reservations or in unsettled areas.

Indians not taxed refers to Indians not living in incorporated areas.
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