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If you are white, how much experience do you have actually dealing with black people?

Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:05 am
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31626 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:05 am
I sometimes forget that most white people haven't spent much time around blacks. Only 13% of the population, and people tend to self-segregate.

Those of us who were fortunate to grow up where it was 50-50 white to black have that perspective, understanding, and love, I think. In my case, I'm white and I know black people that I really love that I didn't seek out so I could be racially cool. I think a lot of people are just talking about stuff they don't know about.

Basically if you lived where it's really mixed, you grew up seeing how white people treat black people and how black people treat white people. You've seen up close what black people think of themselves and what whites think of themselves. You saw how the different races acted in school, for example. Acted In public.

Purpose of the OP is really just to ask whether posters, who I know are mostly white, grew up around a lot of black people.

But I also want to say that I think that what is really going on is around conformity. People with common customs and ways and values will accept those who clearly buy into their shite. That's what conservatives want, and that's what liberals want. Everybody wants everybody else to submit and join their circle. It's why we had "wankers" and "Oreo cookies" growing up.

ETA I said "w I gg ers" and not wankers.

This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 6:19 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75837 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:08 am to
Well I grew up 5 minutes outside of Jackson, MS, so I'd say I have plenty of experience living with black people.

I'm also in the military so I work closely with black people on a daily basis.

I've never once had an issue with race.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17912 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:09 am to
I often have to drive through the ninth ward, does that count?
This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 6:10 am
Posted by PNW_TigerSaint
Member since Oct 2016
1017 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:11 am to
Grew up in Louisiana and now live in Seattle. I can tell you that people up here have no idea about black culture, which is why its extra condescending when they think they have this great perspective on race relations. Average person up here probably 4/1 ratio of BLM signs to black friends.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5534 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:12 am to
I turn the channel to BET once a week for five min
Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4689 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:14 am to
I grew up in Donaldsonville in the public school system. Got bullied until I got to high school. I get a kick out of hearing people say black people can’t be racist
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31626 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:14 am to
Yeah and the Black people they know are more like the black people you see in commercials on TV. Not the black experience I saw.

Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23282 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:14 am to
A rational person can realize that some people are dicks and hate people based on many number of things, skin color being very down on the totem pole. But people will always have preconceived notions based on stereotypical norms.

I think that when most conservatives see a successful black man, for example, they tend to feel a sense of pride because that’s what America is supposed to be about. And it lends credence to the fact that if you work hard you can be successful in this country no matter what color your skin is or where you come from.

That’s why we think the idea of identity politics is not only flawed, but detrimental.
This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 6:16 am
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:14 am to
I used to watch 'Good Times'. From what I know, blacks have hot-tempered fathers, ugly wives named after states, flashy daughters that wear disco garb, and declare "DYNOMITE" regularly.

There seems to be a lot of misunderstandings, typically remedied in under a half-hour.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105376 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:19 am to
I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night so I’m good.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25389 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:20 am to
I’m from White Castle.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51344 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:21 am to
Alot
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26774 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:21 am to
Something tells me you grew up around a different brand.

I worked burger King as my first job, only white there. It was daily I would hear the other employees tell the manager "get that ole white boy outta here, we don't need him". They were in a perpetual state of hostility because I could run a register and expedite my own orders.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34001 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:21 am to
Pretty much daily for 5 plus decades. I have no issue with other people based solely on their skin tone. Honestly, my biggest headache is liberal white women. They are flooding the Northshore. It is like a tsunami of “feelings.”

frick them.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
4961 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:22 am to
Grew up some in Sulphur, spent most of my years around majority black Montgomery. Have schooled, worked and lived with black folks my entire life. My current neighborhood is probably 30-40 percent black families. Never had any problems, personally. I found it amusing that white leftist Shanghai-la’s like Seattle and Portland are still being wrecked by rioters while down in the majority black parts of the south, things are basically business as usual.
Posted by chris44gwlsu
Berlin, Germany
Member since Jan 2008
1165 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:26 am to
My neighborhood and schools growing up were 35% black people. I've personally known several people that were murdered by black people including a friend in 12th grade that was shot point-blank as you can read in this article.

SATE of Lousiana v. Terry Vince

I road the bus being physically and verbally abused until high school. I had my basketball goal ripped down and things stolen from me.

I had a step cousin that lived with my parents that was black. He treated my dad so good while he was hospice that no one uses the 'step' part when referring to him.

I've really had more real life experiences with black people than I care to type and guess what... I don't hate black people at all. I laugh when someone who only knew the RB and PG that was black in HS tries to tell me what to think about black people. You can always tell who really grew up around black people and who didn't.
This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 6:35 am
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4859 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:28 am to
quote:

Those of us who were fortunate to grow up where it was 50-50 white to black have that perspective, understanding, and love, I think.


I wouldn't go THAT far. But yeah I grew up in Central LA. I've had my share of exposure and like ANY other skin color it has its good and bad. Life and human experience isn't about skin color = good or bad, it's about people.

In my book, you're either a good person or not and in my eyes everyone is a good person until they prove they're not, I don't care if you're blue.

If black.people take issue to the perception of thier race, they need to look within their own community. You can't change the perception of others by forcing them to believe something that directly contradicts what they see with their own eyes.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9235 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:29 am to
I grew up in a very diverse city and high school. Many black friends. I was always sort of blind to racism. That all changed when i served in the Army from 01'-06' in the 1st Cavalry Division. We deployed to Baghdad, Iraq in 2003. My entire chain of command was black. My Squad Leader, my Platoon Sergeant, my 1st Sergeant...all of them. My Squad Leader was from New Orleans. He was the most hateful human being i have ever met. Over 2 years of just extra duty here and extra duty there. It was spiteful and full of vengence. Once in Iraq, I was subject to the most dangerous missions and extra duty, time and time again. The only one in my squad. I went to my chain of command multiple times to express my concerns. We had 5 members of my company die while in Iraq, including 2 from our Platoon. The two replacements that we received were both black as well. I was an E-4 at the time and they were both PVT's. I was placed on an escort mission that came under small arms contact...this was after being on check point duty for 8 hrs in 120 degree heat. When i finally got back to our FOB, all of them (including the two FNG's) were in their rooms playing dominos. I absolutely flipped my shite and went straight to the the Company Commander(Who was black). The next day i was put on QRF after my check point duty and when i asked why couldn't the two new guys finally pull some duty, my NCO looked me dead in the face and said "because i said so white boy". Its one thing to be racist, but this POS was literally putting me in extra situations of potential harm and even death. He was putting my life at risk on purpose. On one of those missions, one of my best friends was killed by an IED and its haunted me every day of my life since. I will say this though, one of the other NCO's in my Platoon, who was black, stepped in and literally just took me into his squad. I have been best friends with him every day since. I talk with him every day like a brother and i haven't seen him in 15 years. Racism isn't unique to one race...its what's inside of people's hearts. The NCO who saved me, quite possibly saved me from the anger that was setting into my heart. I thank him every chance i get. There are good and bad with every race.

This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 6:30 am
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:29 am to
I'm from the south and I went to public schools so...
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31626 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:31 am to
Didn't say there wasn't bigotry and hostility at all. There was. On both sides.
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