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re: If the premise is that illegals will lose healthcare coverage, will they just go to ER?
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:42 pm to Rip Torn
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:42 pm to Rip Torn
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You already pay for indigent care as part of your ER bills you just don’t realize it. I can’t tell you how many people come in on a weekly basis with no insurance; probably 60-40 no insurance
I don't know where you live or where you work, but I can tell you with all certainty that in the greater New Orleans area, all but a small handful of people come into the ER with a payor type. The vast overwhelming majority come in with some form of insurance. If I see a "self pay" though, it's usually an illegal.
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Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:45 pm to Pandy Fackler
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this represents less than 1% of total medicaid costs.
Relevance?
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:45 pm to SloaneRanger
Charging people for care is reasonable, but at a certain point it starts to be counterproductive. E.g., people only come in for their cough when they're coughing up blood by which time they've been infectious for months and have given a number of other people maybe kids and pregnant women tuberculosis and nobody is much happy about this in the ER.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:46 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Hopefully it increases self deportations.
It won't, not even a little. The 15 states or so that provide state medicaid for illegals, will in all likelihood continue to do so, despite the Federal matching cuts. And even of these states did end medicaid for illegals, having even limited access to American Healthcare is a million times better than anything in Mexico.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:46 pm to LChama
Set up ICE at the ER.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:47 pm to Pandy Fackler
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It won't, not even a little.
He said from a place of complete ignorance.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:47 pm to The Eric
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Set up ICE at the ER.
Bingo.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:47 pm to LChama
For the most part they're already going to the ER for primary care. The issue is how, or if, the ER gets reimbursed for providing it.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:48 pm to Huskertiger2
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After ICE gets all this funding
Have ICE post up outside of every emergency room.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:48 pm to TigerDoc
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coughing up blood by which time they've been infectious for months and have given a number of other people maybe kids and pregnant women tuberculosis and nobody is much happy about this in the ER.
You have to go back. Or just let ice scoop them up and care for them at the detention center.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:49 pm to LChama
That's a loophole that needs to be closed ASAP
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:51 pm to Pandy Fackler
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all but a small handful of people come into the ER with a payor type.
HealthBlue, (Medicaid), is a payor type. Kind of a disingenuous statement.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:53 pm to Elihu
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ICE should have agents stationed at every hospital emergency room in every major city. It’s ridiculous how many illegals go there. It’s been like that for decades.
Well, now there is an app for reporting the location of ICE agents. I say we put it to good use and report ice agents at every ER in the country.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:54 pm to LChama
Imagine how bad it would get in the ERs if we had continued Biden and Massie’s open border policy!
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:54 pm to LChama
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will they just go to ER?
That's where they already go.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:56 pm to shinerfan
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HealthBlue, (Medicaid), is a payor type. Kind of a disingenuous statement.
Yes, it's a payor type. In the greater New Orleans area, only a small handful come into an ed as "self pay".
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:56 pm to Elihu
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ICE should have agents stationed at every hospital emergency room in every major city.
Just check in at the ICE desk and someone will be right with you.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:57 pm to Rip Torn
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Because public hospitals can’t morally decline basic services to someone if they can’t afford it
That's a bit of a different issue, right now we're talking about federal monies going to benefit illegals. To your point though, I think there could be wiggle-room that medical facilities which render emergency aid to illegals can be reimbursed by the federal government, but only as long as they immediately report the illegal(s) as part of filing for payment for services rendered.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:57 pm to SloaneRanger
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Requiring $300 up front as a condition of getting service doesn’t seem unreasonable.
You want someone who's dying or unconscious to figure out how to pay 300 dollars?
You're just being emotional and not using your head, here.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:57 pm to supadave3
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And that’s the real problem. We’re all upset about illegals getting Medicare (rightfully so) but if we remove coverage immediately, ER’s will be crushed financially. They have to go back ASP.
Just post up some ICE dudes at every ER in the country. Slap em in cuffs on the way out and off to Alligator Alcatraz you go.
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