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re: If the Deep State stole the election from Trump (and us) in 2020, why didn't they in 2024?

Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8853 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:28 pm to
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btw...why are you on the political board and acting like you know nothing about the election last year? I think you are fos. Either that, or just a troll that truly doesn't know anything about elections and the 2024 one.


I'm not pretending anything. I believe there is a Deep State. I believe they stole the 2020 election.

I also think the Deep State would have been prepared for the counter-measures the RNC announced. [Don't cheat in a way poll watchers can observe.]

There have been some good explanations for the differences between 20 and 24. I was leaning towards "Maybe Trump being elected somehow benefits the Deep State?" The explanations have helped me reconsider.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
11380 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:30 pm to
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I think they were under a much bigger microscope last year.

I believe Trump crushed the voting in major landslides all over the country.

The polls were all fake. It was just too big to cheat and overcome.

California kept voting and counting after the election. Places like Pennsylvania didn’t want the same optics as California and stopped counting because the Trump votes were just too big to cheat.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8853 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:36 pm to
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They did in 2024 - Look at all of the congressional wins.


I saw some shady stuff in the Wisconsin Senate race. Why didn't they use the same tactics to rig the state for Harris, too?

Do you think Trump's numbers were just that much better than Hovde's?
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6094 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:43 pm to
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The eternal question



Another angle...in 2020 with Donald Trump being the most powerful man in the world got the election "stolen" from him by a group of people that the right wing consider inept at everything...either it wasn't stolen or Donald Trump isn't the greatest most best man ever to live according to many of his base, considering he got the biggest thing the 2020 election "stolen" from him while being the most powerful man in the world
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48097 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:47 pm to
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what happened in 2024?

RNC had legions of election lawyers monitoring every step in the important districts.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8853 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:50 pm to
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RNC had legions of election lawyers monitoring every step in the important districts.


Did they FIND anything or stop anything, though?
Other than some equitable relief to keep polls open in Pennsylvania, I don't see anything reported about that.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2749 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:56 pm to
Didn't have the cover of Covid. Plus Trump learned from 2020 on how to out maneuver the Democrats cheating.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25037 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:02 pm to
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Why didn't they use the same tactics to rig the state for Harris, too?


They did and she still lost. That's how big of a MAGA landslide it was.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31575 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:05 pm to
Laura Trump was tireless in fighting the election fraud and she didn’t do it alone - dogmatic oversight and aggressive tactics to combat the fraud saved us
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141523 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:06 pm to
Too big to rug baw.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15470 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:07 pm to
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Laura Trump was tireless in fighting the election fraud and she didn’t do it alone - dogmatic oversight and aggressive tactics to combat the fraud


Nuh uh ~ SFP
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
4082 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:07 pm to
There was still an incredible amount of fraud in '24. Kamala had zero chance so they focused on the down ballots. They prioritized the fraud on Senate and House seats. It wasn't until shortly after the presidency was overwhelming decided that they turned their attention back to Kamala and fraudulently counted some 3-4 million votes (in the days following Nov 5th) just to reduce the popular vote margin in an effort to save face.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4676 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:20 pm to
Because Elon Musk stopped them from being able to.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4025 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:21 pm to
COViD changes were reverted but the GOP still invested in getting mail in ballots organized, and continue to do so
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8853 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:23 pm to
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Kamala had zero chance so they focused on the down ballots. They prioritized the fraud on Senate and House seats.


That makes sense.
Posted by rstamp1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1447 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:24 pm to
Emerald Robinson ling twitter thread

This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 9:38 pm
Posted by rstamp1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1447 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53796 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:55 pm to
quote:


I think they were under a much bigger microscope last year.


This^^^ is the biggest reason 2020 could not be replicated by the Democratic Socialists......too many eyes watching in 2024.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6894 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:00 pm to
Too big to rig and too many eyes on it.
If a person doesn’t know the ‘20 election was stolen they’re mentally retarded.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59203 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:09 pm to
It doesn’t make logical sense that Trump would allow his re-election to be “stolen” under his administration and Biden would allow Trump to be elected under his admin. It just doesn’t make logical sense. No details need to be known or not known for the average person to understand that it just does not make any sense.
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