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re: If PA, GA, AZ all confirm voter fraud, then Biden did not legally get to the magic 270 EV
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:04 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:04 pm to dgnx6
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So democrats are going to do the same thing they said trump would do for 4 years which was, not vacate his position and leave the white house. You know hitler type shite.
Pretty much. I don't see a DNC mea culpa coming any time soon, do you?
The public would never forgive the Democrats in that instance however.
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:05 pm to Indefatigable
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Not true at this point. The election is over. The candidates have taken their offices, and neither the POTUS, VPOTUS, or any member of Congress can be removed from their current positions by any manner other than those specified in the Constitution.
In the very unlikely event that the evidence actually comes out that Trump won (and I believe that), there is no way the Dems can just throw up their hands, say so what, and carry on business as usual.
Having said that, the way information gets suppressed, or labeled as nut-job conspiracy theory, it would be really difficult to motivate/inform the wider population to actually pressure Washington into making things right.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:08 pm to Little Trump
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Curtain fixing to be pulled
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:11 pm to Indefatigable
If this is proven conclusively you will see protests in this country that will make the so-called insurrection and Antifa/BLM "protests" look tame. You may see Civil War.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:18 pm to Turbeauxdog
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We already know Wisconsin had massive fraud.
It only takes 3.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:19 pm to UTMaverick
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In the very unlikely event that the evidence actually comes out that Trump won (and I believe that), there is no way the Dems can just throw up their hands, say so what, and carry on business as usual.
If it’s actually proven to that degree, then you’d probably see resignations from Congress. I don’t know what they would do about Joe and Kamala.
It would not be pretty.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:25 pm to Turbeauxdog
Look.
Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan have massive fraud in every election. More specifically, Milwaukee, Philly and Detroit have massive fraud every election.
They had to cheat at a level so high that it became almost impossible to look at it straight-faced and say “yeah, that’s legit.” But they do it every election.
Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan have massive fraud in every election. More specifically, Milwaukee, Philly and Detroit have massive fraud every election.
They had to cheat at a level so high that it became almost impossible to look at it straight-faced and say “yeah, that’s legit.” But they do it every election.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:38 pm to Indefatigable
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What action is available to the states to "man up and act"? They cannot, 100% absolutely cannot, remove members of Congress, POTUS, or VPOTUS.
Yes they can
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:39 pm to Jjdoc
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Yes they can
How? Can we take physical and/or violent removal out of the conversation?
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:40 pm to TenTex
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:50 pm to League Champs
They aren’t reversing the election at this point. Biden is our President it’s time we all accept it and move on
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:54 pm to League Champs
If I remember the law correctly,there is no legal mechanism in place to decertify after the fact. You would literally be in uncharted waters asking the SCOTUS to act in what amounts to an extraconstitutional action.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:08 pm to Indefatigable
quote:You are rationalizing. What is “Removal from office” you refer to? Its pretty non-specific as to how, or whose responsibility it is (officially). Or if you think the matter should be pursued. Which leaves a big gap, into which one might surmise you are really ok with this illegal status quo. Because maybe its too much trouble to find a path for justice?
Saying that there is no Constitutional recourse beyond resignation, death, and/or removal/impeachment is NOT saying that I am ok with the fraud that occured
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:15 pm to JawjaTigah
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What is “Removal from office” you refer to? Its pretty non-specific as to how, or whose responsibility it is (officially)
......what?
'Removal from office' as in the Constitutional procedures for.....removing someone from office. The POTUS can only be removed from office by impeachment/removal in Congress or by the 25th (setting aside death and resignation). Members of Congress can only be removed by a vote of that chamber of Congress (again, setting aside death and resignation)
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Its pretty non-specific as to how, or whose responsibility it is (officially)
Its really not. It is actually spelled out incredibly specifically as to who can remove who in the Constitution.
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Or if you think the matter should be pursued. Which leaves a big gap, into which one might surmise you are really ok with this illegal status quo.
Not sure what you mean by this. It is simply a fact that there is not a Constitutional avenue for states to remove any federal elected official from office. If the states are going to do so, it will be extra-constitutional.
That in no way means that I am ok with fraud having occured. I am just being realistic about what the actual recourse can/will be.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:34 pm to League Champs
Az didnt bother to include the public in their shenanigans. no C span. no periodic reports of results.
you will lose in every court.
Amy fricking barret will shoot down this travesty.
you will lose in every court.
Amy fricking barret will shoot down this travesty.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:39 pm to Indefatigable
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neither the POTUS, VPOTUS, or any member of Congress can be removed from their current positions by any manner other than those specified in the Constitution.
There is always the Mussolini way...
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:40 pm to League Champs
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If
When.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:42 pm to CelticDog
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Az didnt bother to include the public in their shenanigans. no C span. no periodic reports of results.
Thats funny, because the election boards in these states didnt do that either, during the 'official' count
In fact, theyve gone out of their way to prevent what you are suggesting
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:42 pm to Hayekian serf
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I’m not saying there wasn’t fraud, I’m telling you with a feeling of near complete certainty that nothing will happen if it’s revealed
I think you’re correct. Let’s say audits suggest fraud. I say suggest because then you have to prove it to the other side. Then there are howls of laughter stating cultists are trying to overthrow a duly elected blah, blah, blah. Things get tied up in court. Lower courts rule against audit results. Goes to higher courts and takes forever. Meanwhile democrats scoff and say “make me leave”. Our president was inaugurated and took the oath to defend and protect blah, blah, blah. In the end nothing happens.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:59 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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In the end nothing happens.
it's a charade so far.
the Arizona audit is the confection of fools. if it was on the up and up you and the nation would get weekly updates. we checked these kinds of things. list things.
we found these issues.
lists issues. list counts of found items. lovely spreadsheet in WSJ and their local papers.
the absence of VETTED results all this time says its 100% bullshite.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 5:02 pm
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