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re: If PA, GA, AZ all confirm voter fraud, then Biden did not legally get to the magic 270 EV
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:12 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:12 pm to Indefatigable
Lawfully elected officials have constitutional rights (to protect from political removal). That’s the rationale of the mechanisms in the constitution. When there isn’t a lawfully elected official, the seat is simply empty. And the states get to fill them (like when a congressmember dies).
This idea that too bad, so sad means a fraudulently elected officials is protected would actually ENCOURAGE cheating. You think that’s the purpose of the constitution? Get the frick out of here.
This idea that too bad, so sad means a fraudulently elected officials is protected would actually ENCOURAGE cheating. You think that’s the purpose of the constitution? Get the frick out of here.
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:35 pm to League Champs
Sleepy Joe for him to get 81 million votes legally would have won Florida right out the Gate but he dint
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:49 pm to League Champs
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BTW, the other audits wont take as long, once AZ reports out. This decertification could be completed and before the Supremes by, certainly no longer than, let's say ... August, amirite?
There are 15 counties in Arizona. What about the votes in the other 14 counties?
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:55 pm to Indefatigable
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Not true at this point. The election is over. The candidates have taken their offices, and neither the POTUS, VPOTUS, or any member of Congress can be removed from their current positions by any manner other than those specified in the Constitution.
The audits cannot and will not result in ANY federal election being "overturned" or "reversed." It is too late for that. The impacts of the audits will be in improved procedures down the line.
So what you’re saying is election riggings are fine if the election technicians work within the unwritten rules of the DC Swamp?
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:57 pm to League Champs
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And the Supremes are the single body designed to enforce that. Once the fake prez is removed, they will revert back to the prescriptions found in the Constitution for a disputed election. Which this one will certainly be, once enough states verify cheating.
Fraud was proven. That Trump voter voted for his dead mother in law. He plead to it. The Supreme Court already said fraud vitiates everything.
When do we re-vote?
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 10:01 pm to TenTex
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Trump lost, get over it and release yourself from the manipulation of this cult.
You really are deep into denial, aren't you. (statement, not a question.)
Posted on 6/9/21 at 10:04 pm to League Champs
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And for you haters, you legally cannot certify a fraudulent election. The definition of certify states that you are certain, giving reliable information, confirm, and guarantee the truth of the information, endorse reliably. It just took this long to prove it.
SCOTUS did not have the spine to delay the EC by a few days in order to allow them to hear the Texas case. What makes you think that SCOTUS or any other court in the country would rule that the sitting President did not have enough votes to be POTUS? It's been over since December.
The best outcome that anyone can hope for from the Az audit or any other potential audit(s) would be proof of voter fraud. That would shut the liberals up and allow meaningful voting reform that improves the integrity of elections (i.e. voter id, prosecuting voter fraud, etc) actually happen. Having legit evidence of voter fraud to use as a reason to delegitimize the Biden Presidency and drain all of Biden's political capital (like the dems used Russia, Russia, Russia against Trump) would be a nice bonus but that is all that would happen.
The only way to get rid of Biden/Harris before 01/20/2025 would be if the GOP wins control of the House and 67 Senate seats in 2022 (which is probably not going to happen even if they could prove the dems stole the election) and impeaches and convicts both of them.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 10:20 pm to texridder
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What about the votes in the other 14 counties?
LoL
This is how I know the DIMs will fail. Maricopa county had 2 million votes. The rest of the state 1.3 million. There are simply not enough votes to overturn the Maricopa results.
BTW, in 2016 Maricopa only had 1.6 million. So 2020 saw an increase of 41%. Didn't happen!!
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:21 pm to Indefatigable
I’m not an attorney but I do know there was a case in south Florida (maybe mayor of Miami) where a federal judge did exactly what I just said and the USSC didn’t shut it down. There's your precedent counselor.
You don’t believe me, here’s your cite.
New election ordered
You don’t believe me, here’s your cite.
New election ordered
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:48 am to League Champs
quote:this is how I know you are a dim bulb.
This is how I know the DIMs will fail. Maricopa county had 2 million votes. The rest of the state 1.3 million. There are simply not enough votes to overturn the Maricopa results.
Is there any way the rate of fraud in maricopa is different than in the other counties?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:52 am to texridder
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Is there any way the rate of fraud
At least you are starting to admit it
Posted on 6/10/21 at 1:09 am to League Champs
If the election was proven to be stolen & nothing was done about it, then the constitution doesn't matter, and the rights of all the other states don't matter, and the will of American citizens to exercise their individual sovereignty doesn't matter. The regime has been de-legitimized, this is the stage when the country falls.
It's the first step towards secession. The entire federal government would have zero legitimacy at that point. Legally speaking, its complicated how things proceed, but you cannot have a successful country if half the country thinks your government is illegitimate. That might work in South America or some other despot country, but if you want to have a wealthy successful nation, this is doomed to fail.
You wouldn't even need violence to achieve secession, you simply would declare there has been a coup on the US & call a new constitutional congress with reps from red states to come together to form a new country, call it Redmerica, and all the states that want to join in are welcome to. We could even reach a helping hand out to the poor people in Alberta who have an emerging secessionist movement too in Canada (and have an easy legal out). That would allow us to link up their oil into our network as well. So, now that Redmerica has all the energy, the nukes, most of the nations gold, the food, the guns, the minerals. Okay, we're set. The next stage is de-capitalizing the nation formerly known as the United States, Florida is becoming Bitcoin central, Texas is as well. Alright, we now have a monetary system to backstop a new national bank. We're good.
Then we simply bring over the original constitution, patch up all the legal holes to prevent the new nation of Redmerica from being captured by a bunch of cronies. Then our legitimately elected President, Mr. Trump, can govern Redmerica from the nations new capital, either in West Palm Beach, or we relocate Redmerica's capital to somewhere more central in the new country like Tulsa or Wichita.
We may have to go to war for the people unfortunate enough to live in stolen bluemerican states too, particularly up in the Rust Belt. After we beat bluemerica's transgendered army though, we will want to be sure this doesn't end up like an Israel-Gaza situation where we have to inherit the problems of cities like Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, etc. so we'd be better off just building a wall from the beginning around them rather than conquering them. But, this will be a good nation building project to defend against people hostile to Redmerica's long-term interests.
It's the first step towards secession. The entire federal government would have zero legitimacy at that point. Legally speaking, its complicated how things proceed, but you cannot have a successful country if half the country thinks your government is illegitimate. That might work in South America or some other despot country, but if you want to have a wealthy successful nation, this is doomed to fail.
You wouldn't even need violence to achieve secession, you simply would declare there has been a coup on the US & call a new constitutional congress with reps from red states to come together to form a new country, call it Redmerica, and all the states that want to join in are welcome to. We could even reach a helping hand out to the poor people in Alberta who have an emerging secessionist movement too in Canada (and have an easy legal out). That would allow us to link up their oil into our network as well. So, now that Redmerica has all the energy, the nukes, most of the nations gold, the food, the guns, the minerals. Okay, we're set. The next stage is de-capitalizing the nation formerly known as the United States, Florida is becoming Bitcoin central, Texas is as well. Alright, we now have a monetary system to backstop a new national bank. We're good.
Then we simply bring over the original constitution, patch up all the legal holes to prevent the new nation of Redmerica from being captured by a bunch of cronies. Then our legitimately elected President, Mr. Trump, can govern Redmerica from the nations new capital, either in West Palm Beach, or we relocate Redmerica's capital to somewhere more central in the new country like Tulsa or Wichita.
We may have to go to war for the people unfortunate enough to live in stolen bluemerican states too, particularly up in the Rust Belt. After we beat bluemerica's transgendered army though, we will want to be sure this doesn't end up like an Israel-Gaza situation where we have to inherit the problems of cities like Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, etc. so we'd be better off just building a wall from the beginning around them rather than conquering them. But, this will be a good nation building project to defend against people hostile to Redmerica's long-term interests.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 1:27 am
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:16 am to SDVTiger
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Is there any way the rate of fraud
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At least you are starting to admit it
I was referring to fraud on behalf of Trump.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:54 am to TenTex
Another stupid mother frickin democrat Chimes in
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:15 am to Indefatigable
quote:And given the state of things, where exactly do you think we all are now? Cancel culture, alleged systemic racism, corrupt propaganda media, executive orders out the wazoo (aka dictatorial use of power), fake history being force-fed to school children, inflation going up, up, Covid hysteria and destroyed economy, border crisis, and much, much more? What is your bar for despotism?
The threshold for when to use those means will get lower and lower. It’s a cycle that only ends one way eventually—despotism and total disregard for the rule of law.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 9:18 am
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:24 am to roothog1
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If the election was proven to be stolen & nothing was done about it, then the constitution doesn't matter, and the rights of all the other states don't matter, and the will of American citizens to exercise their individual sovereignty doesn't matter. The regime has been de-legitimized, this is the stage when the country falls.
That's correct.
If the audits show Trump won, the SCOTUS will be forced to act.
If they don't, and the states do not call for a Constitutional convention, the USA will become ungovernable.
The only way the federal gov could regain control is if the sent troops into the states. Then it gets very scary for the people.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:30 am to texridder
Do you enjoy smoking crack?
You must, you make no sense.
You must, you make no sense.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:30 am to Jjdoc
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the audits show Trump won, the SCOTUS will be forced to act.
remember how trump lost 50 cases in November?
the few with standing were chastised for being late. in november.
you keep calling them audits.
this is just propaganda so far.
where are arizona weekly updates?
100000 votes reviewed. 45 in error. these were the kinds of errors.
machines xzy.
spreadsheet.
some of that.
dontcha know!
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:31 am to CelticDog
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you keep calling them audits.
this is just propaganda so far.
Glad to see the memo got to you in time, comrade.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:36 am to Indefatigable
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Can we take physical and/or violent removal out of the conversation?
Why? If the fraud in these states is proven to rise to the level that is simply cannot be overlooked, why would we remove physical or violent removal of this government from office?
It seems to me that physical and violent removal is more than warranted at that point if they do not do the right thing in an effort to correct the situation...
At what point is violent removal a reasonable option in your mind?
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