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re: If I'm Putin now, given the all out sanctions and calls for my death...
Posted on 3/4/22 at 1:10 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 3/4/22 at 1:10 pm to Indefatigable
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Russia has no chance of defeating NATO on the battlefield in a widespread conflict.
What about Russia and China's chance?
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 1:13 pm to alpinetiger
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Americans don't understand it because we've never given up any territory.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 1:18 pm to BooShaker
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What about Russia and China's chance?
What about it? China is nowhere near ready to take on the US and its Pacific allies plus NATO. They have no ability to project power outside the SCS.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 3/4/22 at 1:22 pm to Scoob
Nah. Putin is fricked. Russians were tired of his shite economy already. Now their money is worthless, their stock market will crash, and their witnessing of the ineptitude of military leadership spells the end for Putin.
Russia will be a shite show for decades.
Russia will be a shite show for decades.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 1:31 pm to BayouBlitz
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Nah. Putin is fricked. Russians were tired of his shite economy already. Now their money is worthless, their stock market will crash, and their witnessing of the ineptitude of military leadership spells the end for Putin.
Well, if Putin and I'm really screwed, and the people are going to yank me from office ... or a disgruntled oligarch ...I don't go out like Mussolini.
Hung up in red square.
Nope. I lob a Satan II at D.C.
So let's hope he ain't finished
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 3/4/22 at 1:32 pm to RiverCityTider
I'm afraid he's going to start lobbing nukes if he's backed in a corner.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 2:15 pm to alpinetiger
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He wants the pre-1918 Russian territory. Americans don't understand it because we've never given up any territory.
Other than the Phillipines, Cuba, and the Panama Canal.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 2:22 pm to alpinetiger
Hell, let's take away from them what they lost in WWI only to have it given back by the Treaty of Versailles. He doesn't really want to go back to that?
How much land does Russia need? Develop what they have and they'd be rich.
How much land does Russia need? Develop what they have and they'd be rich.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 2:32 pm to RiverCityTider
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think the original aim was to clip off the Russian majority eastern provinces.
Putin went full cock gobbler and wasn’t satisfied for the eastern provinces. He is now gagging in his miscalculation thinking he could take the whole thing.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 2:36 pm to BayouBlitz
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Price you pay when you invade countries and kill civilians.
Your standard would also apply to every American President since Herbert Hoover.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 2:38 pm to RiverCityTider
No his plan now, as it has always been, it too put the USSR back together
Posted on 3/4/22 at 2:39 pm to alpinetiger
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He wants the pre-1918 Russian territory. Americans don't understand it because we've never given up any territory
Check your history. Yes we have
Posted on 3/4/22 at 2:39 pm to RiverCityTider
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I push my advantage and grab as much territory and resources possible.
This isnt 1984 where the CCCP has over 3.1 million in it's active military.
Russia has about 1/4 of its entire military bogged down in Ukraine. Any long term occupation will require the other 3/4s to provide replacements/rotations.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 2:51 pm to RiverCityTider
frick Putin.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:20 pm to Indefatigable
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What about it? China is nowhere near ready to take on the US and its Pacific allies plus NATO. They have no ability to project power outside the SCS.
Other than they own EVERYTHING.
Owning our politicians is just lagniappe.
China has nothing to worry about.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:39 pm to BayouBlitz
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Price you pay when you invade countries and kill civilians.
you mean like how Western Ukraine has murdered civilians in Donbas for the past eight years?
Posted on 3/4/22 at 3:41 pm to Bama54
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No his plan now, as it has always been, it too put the USSR back together
horse shite
Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:12 am to oklahogjr
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So long as he stays in Ukraine ....second he goes all out territory grab ww3 begins
So long as he stays in Poland…
So long as he stays in Europe… oooops
Posted on 3/5/22 at 1:05 am to chalmetteowl
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So long as he stays in Poland… So long as he stays in Europe… oooops
This is a laughable allegory. Doing nothing but support currently and seeing how it plays out is a vastly superior option to becoming directly involved and risking it all.
The first is a potential.
The second is a guarantee.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 5:25 am to oklahogjr
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What advantage?
Doubles the price of oil to US and natural gas to Germany, only offers half the quantity
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