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re: If He Needs to, Can Obama Successfully Claim "Presidential Immunity" For His Crimes?

Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18148 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:27 pm to
Ahhh, the salad tosser returns for his daily beating.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
3151 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Your argument is that because a line from an intelligence report says “Russia didn’t fix votes”, this means they didn’t interfere


No dumbass, my argument, if your reading comprehension is better this time, is that the original report played up the Russian interference to levels it was not even close to.

What about this is so hard?
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7062 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:31 pm to
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Absolutely. You didn’t know this? He even criticized the three letter agencies for their roles in the report. You didn’t know that?

Ratcliffe’s report is a week old bro . I do not care what Ratcliffe tweets — what’s his official report say about Russian election interference?
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7062 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:34 pm to
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No dumbass, my argument, if your reading comprehension is better this time, is that the original report played up the Russian interference to levels it was not even close to.

First off, you are now acknowledging Russian interference.

Second, Mueller/Senate/Ratcliffe played up based on what? Were officials ever proclaiming Russia fixed votes or stole the election?

You’re telling me Ratcliffe’s report from last week played up Russian interference? Ratcliffe is a Trump guy.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:37 pm to
“Russia hacked our election” was said thousands of times.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7062 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:38 pm to
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Ahhh, the salad tosser returns for his daily beating.

Another Aggie randomly talking about tossing salad, why do you do this to yourselves?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135762 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:38 pm to
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I’ve scoured documents
Have you?
Well damn, if you've "scoured documents," that certainly trumps anyone else who's done the same.

Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1584 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:43 pm to
Claiming Presidential Immunity will be tantamount to admitting guilt. He sees nothing wrong with what he and his minions did.

Did you forget about the size of his ego?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57264 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:43 pm to
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you all in on Tulsi’s latest “bombshell”?


What does “all in” mean? Like how you were with Muh Russia? I’m not sure. Sounds plausible, though. You think Hillary did it in her own?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57264 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:44 pm to
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this means they didn’t interfere.


You pretending like a couple thousand dollars of Facebook posts are actual interference is more stupid.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57264 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:45 pm to
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Ratcliffe’s report is a week old bro


And? He criticized the 3 letter agency and the identified “interference” was next to nothing. Surely you knew this? Right? Right?

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what’s his official report say about Russian election interference?


Describe the interference. Be specific. fricking moron.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7062 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:45 pm to
No one in that video is an official, and I’ve also said several times that Clinton should be in jail for Steele Dossier.

I don’t expect nuance here, but it’s good to inject for lurkers.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26321 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:46 pm to
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Yeah, once again, for the 2473rd time, you thought you had the Orange man.


Nah, I’m just enjoying seeing his stupid followers as he calls them squirm. Nothing will happen to any of them.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57264 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:46 pm to
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don’t expect nuance here


Yet Facebook posts satisfy your Russian interference tripe. Your lack of self-awareness is staggering.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57264 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:47 pm to
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Nah, I’m just enjoying seeing his stupid followers as he calls them squirm. Nothing will happen to any of them.


You weren’t even aware that Trump called for the testimony to be unsealed. You’re a useful idiot with 5 day old news.
This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 4:48 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467444 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:48 pm to
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SFP, boosie, Kiwi and assorted other ****ry experts said Obama's decisions are totally harmless

I did not say that.

Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7062 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:52 pm to
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Be specific

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On July 13, 2018, a federal grand jury sitting in the District of Columbia returned an indictment against 12 Russian military intelligence officers for their alleged roles in interfering with the 2016 United States (U.S.) elections. The indictment charges 11 defendants, Boris Alekseyevich Antonov, Dmitriy Sergeyevich Badin, Nikolay Yuryevich Kozachek, Aleksey Viktorovich Lukashev, Artem Andreyevich Malyshev, Sergey Aleksandrovich Morgachev, Aleksandr Vladimirovich Osadchuk, Aleksey Aleksandrovich Potemkin, Ivan Sergeyevich Yermakov, Pavel Vyacheslavovich Yershov, and Viktor Borisovich Netyksho, with a computer hacking conspiracy involving gaining unauthorized access into the computers of U.S. persons and entities involved in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, stealing documents from those computers, and staging releases of the stolen documents to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The indictment also charges these defendants with aggravated identity theft, false registration of a domain name, and conspiracy to commit money laundering. Two defendants, Aleksandr Vladimirovich Osadchuk and Anatoliy Sergeyevich Kovalev, are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes, relating to hacking into the computers of U.S. persons and entities responsible for the administration of 2016 U.S. elections, such as state boards of elections, secretaries of state, and U.S. companies that supplied software and other technology related to the administration of U.S. elections. The United States District Court for the District of Columbia in Washington, D.C. issued a federal arrest warrant for each of these defendants upon the grand jury’s return of the indictment.


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In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Jeanette Manfra, the head of cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland Security, said she couldn't talk about classified information publicly, but in 2016, "We saw a targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated. We were able to determine that the scanning and probing of voter registration databases was coming from the Russian government."


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Russia has been using social media platforms to attack political enemies since at least 2013 under the auspices of the IRA, according to a US Senate Intelligence Committee report. A Justice Department indictment filed in 2018 and other reports have described hundreds of paid Russian trolls operating disinformation campaigns with an annual budget in the millions. A management group oversees the various departments - graphics, search engine optimization, IT, and finance departments among them. The trolls are told to watch American TV shows like House of Cards and are given grammar lessons. To hide their Russian identity, the trolls use proxy servers, communicate in English, and use fake identities to establish hundreds of accounts on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and other social media. Within time, those accounts gain followers and became more influential. In early 2023, Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Russian private military company Wagner Group, said he founded the IRA. Prigozhin is now better known as the mercenary chief who led a military uprising against Russian generals. He died in an apparent plane crash on August 23, 2023 two months after leading an aborted coup against Putin's government.


Forbes 2022:
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Russia has spent over $300 million attempting to win over politicians and political parties in dozens of countries since 2014, and it plans to spend even more money in future years, U.S. officials told media outlets Tuesday, the latest allegation of Russian meddling in foreign politics.


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An indictment filed Wednesday alleges a media company linked to six conservative influencers — including well-known personalities Tim Pool, Dave Rubin and Benny Johnson — was secretly funded by Russian state media employees to churn out English-language videos that were “often consistent” with the Kremlin’s “interest in amplifying U.S. domestic divisions in order to weaken U.S. opposition” to Russian interests, like its war in Ukraine.


Now you could just go read the Senate committee or Ratcliffe’s report, but I realize none of this will snap you out of the daydream.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84588 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:56 pm to
Bonds says all that is bullshite and it’s *literally* treason for a sitting US President to be concerned about it
This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85406 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:59 pm to
Reports based on data supplied from DNI
fricking awesome!
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7074 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:59 pm to
wait do y'all really think Obama, Comey, et all are going to be charged with anything?

What are they going to be charged with?
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