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re: If Biden won 2020 legitimately
Posted on 7/19/26 at 1:55 pm to cadillacattack
Posted on 7/19/26 at 1:55 pm to cadillacattack
These are the people who will simultaneously argue that elections are secure and free of fraud, and that foreign election interference and/or Elon Musk using magic space lasers to change results caused the two Trump wins.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 1:59 pm to BlackAdam
They literally scream not my president so again I don’t understand the point
Posted on 7/19/26 at 2:10 pm to CrystalPreserves
quote:
I found pressure.
quote:You found squat, because you did not do the search.
A Google search showing ... one firm withdrawing
Posted on 7/19/26 at 2:12 pm to NC_Tigah
The classroom History books of the future are going to be disastrous.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 2:17 pm to CrystalPreserves
quote:A clerk giving bad legal advice is not the same thing ... as the Wisconsin Supreme Court
On March 31, 2020, the Wisconsin Supreme Court found CV19 did not meet criteria for "indefinitely confined," and it barred McDonell from giving that advice.
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... A clerk giving bad legal advice is not the same thing
Posted on 7/19/26 at 2:20 pm to ezride25
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They believe because trump.
Yep, not like there was a massive 2am switch while we were all sleeping or anything.
There was absolutely zero suspicious activity and people's opinion was based SOLELY on what Trump said.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 2:44 pm to NC_Tigah
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You found squat, because you did not do the search.
Funny how we keep ending up back at me instead of your evidence.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 2:45 pm to Azkiger
The way that was written was ambiguous. I didn’t mean to say that people believe the election was stolen because trump said so. He has said so, but because it is the truth. Not because he’s leveraging a political tool.
Meanwhile the other side uses everything as a political tool. Which has resulted in people willing to believe Biden won because they “just can’t even” with trump. They prefer a compromised democracy to trump winning outright. They believe in Joe Biden winning because Trump. Therefore no evidence is sufficient because their reasoning is not based on evidence but on feelings. It’s infantile.
Meanwhile the other side uses everything as a political tool. Which has resulted in people willing to believe Biden won because they “just can’t even” with trump. They prefer a compromised democracy to trump winning outright. They believe in Joe Biden winning because Trump. Therefore no evidence is sufficient because their reasoning is not based on evidence but on feelings. It’s infantile.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 3:06 pm to CrystalPreserves
quote:When you attempt to characterize material you've not read, and mischaracterize what you do read, that's how it rolls.
Funny how we keep ending up back at me
Posted on 7/19/26 at 3:37 pm to CrystalPreserves
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You’re asking people to judge the spirit of a claim while excusing its accuracy. That’s backwards.
I'm no "excusing" anything - I just want simple answers to simple and abundantly apparent questions that are being ignored because
nobody has produced evidence that proves it would change the result."
That's the same as not arresting a blood soaked man with a knife in his hand leaving an apartment full of people who have been stabbed to death - because 'nobody has proved he did anything wrong yet."
Anyone with room temperature IQ knows that the 2020 election was full of fraudulent behavior - but since the party that did the dirty deeds are the ones who decide if there is any 'evidence' they are heavily tilted toward 'nope - no evidence that proves it would change the result"
This post was edited on 7/19/26 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 7/19/26 at 3:43 pm to NC_Tigah
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When you attempt to characterize material you've not read, and mischaracterize what you do read, that's how it rolls.
Then name the material and the mischaracterization. Otherwise, you’re just kicking dust at my boots.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 3:45 pm to ChineseBandit58
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I'm no "excusing" anything - I just want simple answers to simple and abundantly apparent questions that are being ignored because nobody has produced evidence that proves it would change the result." That's the same as not arresting a blood soaked man with a knife in his hand leaving an apartment full of people who have been stabbed to death - because 'nobody has proved he did anything wrong yet." Anyone with room temperature IQ knows that the 2020 election was full of fraudulent behavior - but since the party that did the dirty deeds are the ones who decide if there is any 'evidence' they are heavily tilted toward 'nope - no evidence that proves it would change the result"
That’s a fine analogy… if you assume the conclusion before the evidence shows up.
That’s been your hitch from the start.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 4:23 pm to CrystalPreserves
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That’s a fine analogy… if you assume the conclusion before the evidence shows up.
That’s been your hitch from the start.
OK - let's put your theory to the test -
do you think you know who killed Charlie Kirk?
any idea at all?
Why are they holding him in jail?? - nobody has "proved" anything yet.
What if the officials in charge of the scene just decided - 'nope - we don't have enough proven evidence to reach a conviction, so no sense bothering anyone any further.
IF you disagree, then bring US the 'evidence' with an assurance that it will produce a 'guilty' verdict - otherwise you are just wasting all our time. We got other celebrities we are charged with protecting - just like we did with poor ol; Charlie.
Evidence doesn't exist if nobody bothers to look for it - THAT is what is wrong with the 2020 election.
It is the same as seeing Charlie Kirk get assassinated in real time - but IF nobody in charge of the scene will allow anyone to LOOK for 'evidence' because no single thing would bring him back to life anyway.
IF you think the elections in the counties we are talking about were so pure that they are not worth actually looking to see if they were secure at all.
WE all accepted Biden as POTUS - with nary a riot - just legitimate demands that the abundant lapses of security and prevention of oversight and dubious storage and random water leaks, and late deliveries of ballots, and after hours counting with NO oversight - all indicate a fair election - then shame on you.
We certainly know that Democrats do not follow that rule - Trump won the 2015 election fair and square - but dems still went so fare as to try removing him from office and are still trying to stop his progress in his second term. They stop at nothing - denying ICE funding - promoting fraud in all proigrams - refusing to keep illegal aliens from voting - IN FACT the very fact that they are willing to STOP ALL GOVERNMENT ACTIVITY Unless we agree to allow the 11 million illegal aliens that Biden illegally allowed in to the country to VOTE in our national elections.
WE are consistent - we want the Facts to be known and logical decisions made with those facts
YOU want facts hidden and are satusfied with absurd conclusions that result.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 4:29 pm to ChineseBandit58
You’re still confusing an investigation with the conclusion you wanted from it. Charlie Kirk’s alleged killer wasn’t arrested because guilt was already proved. He was arrested because investigators found probable cause. The 2020 election was investigated too. You just reject where those investigations led. That’s not the absence of evidence. It’s the refusal to accept it.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 4:32 pm to CrystalPreserves
quote:By whom?
The 2020 election was investigated too
Posted on 7/19/26 at 4:42 pm to NC_Tigah
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By whom?
Are you serious? State and local election officials, county boards, Republican and Democratic secretaries of state, Trump’s Justice Department, DHS, CISA, courts, recount teams, state auditors, etc.
Georgia conducted a statewide hand audit and recount. Arizona’s Republican-led Senate ordered its own review. Wisconsin’s Republican Legislature ordered an audit.
So plenty of people, including quite a few who wanted Trump to win.
Also remember, Trump filed 62 lawsuits claiming election fraud or interference… and lost every single one of em bubba.
This post was edited on 7/19/26 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:20 pm to CrystalPreserves
He won a few of those where the actual evidence was considered.
This post was edited on 7/19/26 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:26 pm to Auburn1968
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He won a few of those where the actual evidence was considere
What did he win exactly? Which cases?
Be specific
Posted on 7/19/26 at 6:07 pm to Auburn1968
A few narrow procedural rulings, sure. But none found outcome-changing fraud or concluded Trump had actually won a state he lost.
Posted on 7/19/26 at 6:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Have you missed the last 6 years of people denying the legitimacy?
Yep - I missed that - slept right thru it I reckon
I do recall a lot of uproar over the sloppy execution of the election in certain highly democrat areas - and such secrecy over the 'oh so legitimate ballots' = you'd think they'd want to show off the extent of their control over every single aspect of the collection, validation, count, safeguards, of such a prime example of absolute perfection and documented validation of every step.
Just doesn't make sense - you got the goods - absolute perfection - great victory - and you just hid it somewhere that nobody can admire the totally evident validity of every step. THey seem to rather that there be some discourse about why the whole effort was kept under such rigid control.
That is if you had a brain that worked with a moral conscience.
Just dunno what to make of such a winning episode going unheralded like that - especially when the democrats seem to be slipping full speed into communism - where such things as 'fair elections' are such a known joke.
I just dunno what the big problem is. Maybe they yearn for the real thing? = total devotion to communism so they don't have to pretend not to want it every cycle??
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