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re: I'd be interested to hear everyone's opinions of a national sales tax...

Posted on 1/29/23 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 3:43 pm to
How would proceeds from Roth IRA be treated? Would it be taxed on top of already having paid taxes on the invested proceeds?
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Dumbest idea ever


Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 3:55 pm to
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only reason anyone is in favor of it is because the Republican idiots in the House proposed it.


I’ve been in favor for it for 3 decades, Low-T.
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 3:58 pm to
I'd prefer the States to collect and pay the federal. Big time not a fan of federal taking money directly and then bribing states with their constituents money.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:06 pm to
I would be fine with it if they locked the rate into the amendment, this would keep Congress from using it as a political football.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:09 pm to
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Dumbest idea ever


Why?
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:16 pm to
We would end up with BOTH
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:18 pm to
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Dumbest idea ever and the only reason anyone is in favor of it is because the Republican idiots in the House proposed it.


And that’s the only reason you think it’s dumb……that, and it would put an end to your and Rachel Maddow’s whining every four years about wanting to see the GOP nominee’s tax returns.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:27 pm to
Penalizes consumption and rewards savers. Everyone pays regardless of income. What’s not to like?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:28 pm to
No. Because they will get a national consumption tax and then immediately reimpose an income tax "on the rich". Treble taxation.

Hard pass.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:31 pm to
frick no! I am not in support of MORE taxes.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:33 pm to
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Explain. In detail.

It would be an instant 30% inflation on everything. That would drive all of the lower classes to abject poverty. Also, the impact of such a tax would be devastating on the wage earners while substantially increasing the wealth of high wage earners. It is the very definition of a regressive tax system.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32202 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:34 pm to
Anything is better than what we have. I would prefer a flat tax. Consumption tax would cause lots of people to accept cash only and under report sales and take less. I don't know how you could police it.
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
1078 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:34 pm to
All taxes should be point of sale. Property tax is a scam. A simple man’s view
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23645 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:35 pm to
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Penalizes consumption and rewards savers.

There are millions in this country who cannot afford the basic levels of consumption required to live. They can’t be “savers.” This would drive them below survival.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:37 pm to
There would be a good number of small businesses that would go "cash only".
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:38 pm to
If it helps get rid of the irs. And they don’t add a flat tax on top of it. I’d rather do a flat tax rate myself.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:38 pm to
Good, exempt food and drugs.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:39 pm to
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It would be an instant 30% inflation on everything.


As opposed to rampant inflation AND income tax?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:41 pm to
I think a lot of people have the misconception it wil be like their local sales tax. Like around 10%. But the federal will be ON TOP of your local tax. And will need to be around 30% to have any hope of funding the government i line with what voters demand.

So the combined rate will be running 40-ish% in most places. That presumes FICA taxes stay in place.

Most people dont appreciate how much “the rich” are funding the government. Spreading it out means high rates for A LOT of people that currently pay little to nothing.

Ultimately that’s why it will never have any chance of passing.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 4:42 pm
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