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re: "I Went to the Hospital with chest pains. The reality in the ER was interesting..."
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:46 am to ibldprplgld
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:46 am to ibldprplgld
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but mostly because my brother was undergoing chemotherapy and had no immune defense (neutropenia)— so his oncologist told me the responsible thing to do was to get it to help protect him from catching it. Obviously framed that way, I got the shots (no boosters).
Exactly this. My wife has cancer and her oncologist told me essentially the same thing.
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:49 am to Liberator
So he went to the hospital for chest pain, they asked him about the vaccine, and then he had nothing wrong with his chest and went home. Conspiracy!!!!!!
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:51 am to jcaz
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These docs that were towing the line are all complicit. They had zero evidence it was “safe and effective” but kept parroting it. Meanwhile they were also refusing to prescribe meds for a treatment that had been around for decades
All of this and I hope people remember. This should be a lesson in “trusting experts”. Just because someone does something professionally does not make them an expert. And more importantly, people need to stop thinking of themselves as experts, and have some sort of obligation to opine on something if you are simply relying on someone else’s guidance.
Doctors are the most overpriced service in the country.
Having said all that, it’s truly a shame that your initial position on the vaccine, for med professionals or not, couldn’t be “I do not have enough information to draw a definitive conclusion”. That answer should almost always be considered correct when you are at a decision point.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:58 am to AlxTgr
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Yeah, I'm trying to figure out why the question is important.
My bad. I was inquiring with sincerity and knowledge. No agenda at all.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:00 am to CoachDon
quote:Me too and I hope there's an answer.
I was inquiring with sincerity and knowledge.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:09 am to Liberator
ER is interesting. I didn't expect - not for a minute - to be like one of the TV shows. But what surprised me was.
1. You want to know who ACTUALLY is in the ER most nights? Elderly people brought in to die from their nursing homes because the homes want to say "we did everything we did we even called and ambulance". I swear 80 percent must have been not just old but SUPER old.
2. The second thing was - here is a surprise - the rooms and things - they actually ARE pretty modern - at least at my ER. But unlike tv everything goes really slow. I don't mean to say the lines are long, I mean people walk slow, eat slow, type slow, say "Ill be right back, I gotta go to the can" and leave for 20 minutes instead of, like, two.
I'm sure it's much different in tougher neighborhood hospitals.
1. You want to know who ACTUALLY is in the ER most nights? Elderly people brought in to die from their nursing homes because the homes want to say "we did everything we did we even called and ambulance". I swear 80 percent must have been not just old but SUPER old.
2. The second thing was - here is a surprise - the rooms and things - they actually ARE pretty modern - at least at my ER. But unlike tv everything goes really slow. I don't mean to say the lines are long, I mean people walk slow, eat slow, type slow, say "Ill be right back, I gotta go to the can" and leave for 20 minutes instead of, like, two.
I'm sure it's much different in tougher neighborhood hospitals.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:09 am to Liberator
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"I Went to the Hospital with chest pains. The reality in the ER was interesting..."
Maybe the reality is the electronic medical system has hard stops where this question must be asked in order to advance? It’s not always the most sinister explanation
This is the case for us. My staff can’t book a case without answering if the patient is COVID + or -, and his vaccination status. Even though COVID testing is no longer required preoperatively, these are electronic remnants from when we were at the height of the pandemic.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:11 am to GumboPot
quote:I think that is certainly the case with myocarditis. I am 2 years out and more concerned with autoimmune (arthritis) than myocarditis. I have had arthritis in my back for years but it has advanced in the last 2 years.
With that said, the further you are from being vaccinated it makes sense that the risk of vaccine injury is lowered
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:12 am to Eurocat
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But unlike tv everything goes really slow. I don't mean to say the lines are long, I mean people walk slow, eat slow, type slow, say "Ill be right back, I gotta go to the can" and leave for 20 minutes instead of, like, two.
I’d wager that variable changes, depending on the nature of the illnesses/injuries being addressed at any given moment.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:13 am to onmymedicalgrind
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and his vaccination status.
Why would the vaccine brand matter?
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:15 am to Diamondawg
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surely they drew a Troponin level
that was the only thing that caught my heart attack back in 2019.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:22 am to ibldprplgld
quote:Good decision.
mostly because my brother was undergoing chemotherapy and had no immune defense (neutropenia)— so his oncologist told me the responsible thing to do was to get it to help protect him from catching it. Obviously framed that way, I got the shots
quote:J/c; why?
Now I’m concerned it may have caused me cardiovascular damage
Are you having symptoms? Fatigue? Light-headed?
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:26 am to LSUAngelHere1
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Demand a d dimer test for micro clotting and troponins test.
I’ve never heard of these. How are they run? The micro clotting one is pretty self explanatory, but what’s the troponins?
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:30 am to Liberator
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Did you get the vaccine?
The Left: HOW DARE YOU ASK THIS QUESTION?!? THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY CHEST PAINS BECAUSE THE MSM SAID SO!
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:33 am to ibldprplgld
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but what’s the troponins
a protein in the blood.
elevated level indicate some sort of injury to the heart.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:35 am to EKG
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costochondritis
Costochondritis is the inflammation of the cartilage in the sternum. My wife used to get it from time to time (seemingly connected to stress levels during flare ups).
I’m not sure it normally radiates down the arm though? I thought it stays local to the chest.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:39 am to Sev09
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Costochondritis is the inflammation of the cartilage in the sternum. My wife used to get it from time to time (seemingly connected to stress levels during flare ups).
I’m not sure it normally radiates down the arm though? I thought it stays local to the chest.
different situation, but i tore some rib cartilage once.
most god awful pain i've ever felt in my life. that whole side of my upper body hurt.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:42 am to NC_Tigah
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J/c; why? Are you having symptoms? Fatigue? Light-headed?
I suppose abundance of caution. I have no symptoms now, but I definitely had decreased stamina and got unusually winded for the year or so after the shots.
I’d rather rule it out than let it go unchecked if the damage could be asymptomatic…until it isn’t.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:43 am to Nutriaitch
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different situation, but i tore some rib cartilage once.
I re-racked a 255lb S2OH lift to the front rack on Sunday and felt my whole sternum crack like I was being adjusted by a Chiropractor.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:45 am to onmymedicalgrind
quote:Indeed. Possibly tied to a study or CMS reimbursement as well.
Maybe the reality is the electronic medical system has hard stops where this question must be asked in order to advance?
I'm not aware of any SE profile differences in moderna vs pfizer, much less any major differences, but that seems to be the OP source's insinuation.
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