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re: I was an FBI agent. Trump’s lack of concern about Russian hacking shocks me.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:27 am to Dale51
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:27 am to Dale51
Okay, give me another example where another country has become as involved in our election process as they were in this instance?
My premise is this was a personal vendetta directed at Hillary Clinton and I provided an article from a friendly news source (NYT) from the time period in question (2011). When the 2016 election comes around and the former SoS is the DNC candidate, do you honestly think a former KGB agent who has been trifled with (actually more, there was deep paranoia this was an attempt to overthrow Putin in the same fashion as Qaddafi), that he was not going to get his shots in?
Nominate Bernie and I can guarantee you the Russian involvement would have been little to nothing. They had no stake in the game undermining our political process.
My premise is this was a personal vendetta directed at Hillary Clinton and I provided an article from a friendly news source (NYT) from the time period in question (2011). When the 2016 election comes around and the former SoS is the DNC candidate, do you honestly think a former KGB agent who has been trifled with (actually more, there was deep paranoia this was an attempt to overthrow Putin in the same fashion as Qaddafi), that he was not going to get his shots in?
Nominate Bernie and I can guarantee you the Russian involvement would have been little to nothing. They had no stake in the game undermining our political process.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 7:28 am
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:28 am to Wolfhound45
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Hopefully this resets our entire election process. No more "their turn" candidates. And possibly the rise of a viable third party.
Voter ID would be one of the important things to require in order to secure the validity of voting...don't you agree?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:30 am to Dale51
Voter ID and removing the party affiliation from the ballot. We would change our election process overnight and force thoughtful engagement by the voting public (this author included - I have voted straight ticket too many times).
ETA: And removing party affiliation would definitely create the conditions for a third and possibly fourth party.
ETA: And removing party affiliation would definitely create the conditions for a third and possibly fourth party.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 7:31 am
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:30 am to AUstar
quote:After Clapper's comments on AC360, nothing that man will ever say again will be worth a damn. The man is a treacherous piece of garbage.
(to quote James Clapper)
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:32 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Well I doubt you are on his Christmas card list anymore
a treacherous piece of garbage
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:32 am to Wolfhound45
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Okay, give me another example where another country has become as involved in our election process as they were in this instance?
Give me an example of how Russia was "involved in our election process" first, for context.
Thanks.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:32 am to Wolfhound45
If Putin really wanted either candidate to win, it was Hillary.
The Obama administration helped Putin at every turn.
Hillary sold Putin Uranium.
The hacking occurred under Obama's watch. His administration was too busy spring on american citizens for political reasons and trying to conceal Hillary's corruption to protect us against the hacking.
The Democrat party was fine with it until Hillary started to struggle.
Any suggestion that Putin wanted Trump to win is pure foolishness or dishonesty. This entire witch hunt is embarrassing to the democrat party, a party that has become nothing but a huge joke.
The Obama administration helped Putin at every turn.
Hillary sold Putin Uranium.
The hacking occurred under Obama's watch. His administration was too busy spring on american citizens for political reasons and trying to conceal Hillary's corruption to protect us against the hacking.
The Democrat party was fine with it until Hillary started to struggle.
Any suggestion that Putin wanted Trump to win is pure foolishness or dishonesty. This entire witch hunt is embarrassing to the democrat party, a party that has become nothing but a huge joke.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:35 am to Dale51
The narrative is they spread disinformation about Hillary. Which is laughable, because they did not have to create a false or negative narrative. She was a walking (actually stumbling) train wreck of a candidate.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:35 am to LSU Patrick
I don't think they had a dog in the fight as to who won. I would agree with AU that they wanted to sow discord. But there was a personal element from 2011 that was lingering. A bit of payback.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:36 am to Wolfhound45
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Voter ID and removing the party affiliation from the ballot.
Voter ID is easily doable. You will never get rid of party affiliations.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:39 am to Dale51
NC actually had a voting district do it.
And the Obama administration successfully sued them to have them put back on the ballot.
And the Obama administration successfully sued them to have them put back on the ballot.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:40 am to NC_Tigah
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Voter ID and removing the party affiliation from the ballot.
I agree. Clapper actually introduced what became Comey's forgiveness of crime when he testified that the intelligence community never "knowingly" captured private citizens communications. Once that was accepted, it was a small step to, so and so never "intended" to commit a crime.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:41 am to Wolfhound45
Putin benefited from Obama's foreign policy in most every indirect way possible. Hillary would have doubled down on it. Putin is too smart to let some little grudge become his primary motivation.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:48 am to Wolfhound45
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NC actually had a voting district do it. And the Obama administration successfully sued them to have them put back on the ballot.
This is in reference to what, as far as Russia?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:59 am to a want
The Anti-Trump crowd is close to Russia. At most every event, your side carries the Communist flag and symbols around..
Posted on 6/11/17 at 8:03 am to a want
More anti-Trump propaganda. This from an *FBI Agent* whose Bureau has been Politically corrupted from within. From Fast n Furious to HRC's monumental quid pro quo sale to the Russians of TWENTY FIVE PERCENT of US uranium for tens of millions to Her/Bill/Cronies (well-documented in a Book)...this *Agent* ignores all that and harps on the trumped-up Russian hacking of our Election.
Trump is killing Russia/Putin in the real World. First shipment of NG to Europe just last week. Trump's Speech in Saudi Arabia has virtually turned the tide over in the ME, against Putin's Puppets, the Mullahs of Iran.
Russia is no friend, but they are not half as dangerous to our Republic as the traitorous "fundamental transformation" Obama and the pernicious effects he had on the (formerly) patriotic Institutions like the FBI.
Trump is killing Russia/Putin in the real World. First shipment of NG to Europe just last week. Trump's Speech in Saudi Arabia has virtually turned the tide over in the ME, against Putin's Puppets, the Mullahs of Iran.
Russia is no friend, but they are not half as dangerous to our Republic as the traitorous "fundamental transformation" Obama and the pernicious effects he had on the (formerly) patriotic Institutions like the FBI.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 8:03 am to a want
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it was always to discuss how the investigation into Russia’s election interference was affecting him personally, rather than the security of the country. He apparently cared little about understanding either the magnitude of the Russian intelligence threat, or how the FBI might be able to prevent another attack in future elections.?
bullshite
The DEMs care nothing about that either - all they care about is a wedge with which to attack the POTUS and prevent his agenda from moving forward. All the "outrage" is as fake as Schumer- tears at a press release. There only interest is maintaining a 'collusion' narrative with the actual collusion of the MSM propaganda apparatus.
This is the biggest nothing burger since the golden shower dossier.
Investigate cyber intrusion all you want - but unless you have something of evidentiary substance, then leave the politics out of it. Of course leaving politics out of an issue is a death knell for DEMs - it is their only interest.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 8:04 am to RCDfan1950
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the (formerly) patriotic Institutions like the FBI.
ummmm - don't you mean the Federal Bureau of Matters??
Posted on 6/11/17 at 8:06 am to a want
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and he warned Thursday that Russia is “coming after America,” regardless of party, “to undermine our credibility in the rest of the world
The whole goal of the democrats is to undermine the credibility of the current administration, congress, and judicial system. So look how stupid the democrats are if they think that is Russia's main goal.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 8:13 am to Colonel Flagg
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The whole goal of the democrats is to undermine the credibility of the current administration, congress, and judicial system. So look how stupid the democrats are if they think that is Russia's main goal.
And you can throw in Constitutional Principle from our Founding, too, CF. "Fundamental transformation" via the Saul Alinsky model.
They keep pulling this crap...the next *Trump* will indeed make this one look like a boy scout.
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