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re: I understand 47’s desire to find an exit. But it’s time to face the music and bomb again.

Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1869 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:08 pm to
Targeting bridges and power plants are not war crimes.
My Dad's first 2 combat missions with the 15th AF were bridges in Southern France in preparation for operation Dragoon.
The British used dam buster bombs
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The Dambusters Raid (May 1943): Operation Chastise saw RAF Squadron 617 use specialized "bouncing bombs" to breach the Möhne and Eder dams. The resulting floods severely disrupted the valley's raw material supplies and rail networks, killing over 1,000 people (many of whom were foreign forced laborers).
to destroy 2 dams in the Ruhr Valley in 1943.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5862 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:14 pm to
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Targeting bridges and power plants are not war crimes.
My Dad's first 2 combat missions with the 15th AF were bridges in Southern France in preparation for operation Dragoon.
The British used dam buster bombs


International law on war crimes has changed greatly since 1943.

You should give them a read sometime.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63842 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:14 pm to
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Targeting bridges and power plants are not war crimes.


It can be.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Sams Crow
Member since Apr 2026
95 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:26 pm to
You had me until "stupidity" - the word which would be found in every newspaper column and social media post on the day after Iran slipped a nuke into some port city.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
8508 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:28 pm to
He needs to end it now. Ships troops just sitting there day after day after day. They deserve to return home. This shite has gone on long enough.
Posted by Sams Crow
Member since Apr 2026
95 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:33 pm to
If we could simply convince the irgc that the 72 virgins are over 16, then the resistance would instantly dissolve.
Posted by Sams Crow
Member since Apr 2026
95 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:34 pm to
Yeah, that's their JOB.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 12:52 pm to
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It shows that he wastes too much time listening to a loud but vocal minority that does not think things through. Especially when it comes to Iran. So far all his bets have not paid off. Higher oil prices, a bottleneck at a key economic and strategic chokepoint and a political situation in Iran that has gone in the reverse of his expected goals....IRGC still running things.

Well said

One of the bigger blunders we've seen, and it'll just keep getting worse. Ego is too big to just send everyone home now, which would be the best thing to do obviously.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13597 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:35 pm to
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UtahCajun


Thanks, but...

1. The DOJ is not "the people of the United States."

2. From your citation: "it remains uncertain, however, whether the court will be able to in fact exercise its jurisdiction or obtain physical custody over the Defendants because they are not currently present in the United States."

So they put someone on Double Secret Probation, is what you're telling me happened here.

Which is the point.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4293 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:42 pm to
Spoken like Maga Jesus
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18765 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:43 pm to
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It can be.


Dual purpose infrastructure is and always has been fair game in war.

Inconvenient truth for those inflicted with TDS.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63842 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:49 pm to
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Dual purpose infrastructure is and always has been fair game in war.



Perhaps you didn’t understand the function of the word “can” in my statement.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18765 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:53 pm to
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One of the bigger blunders we've seen, and it'll just keep getting worse. Ego is too big to just send everyone home now, which would be the best thing to do obviously.


I see it differently.

- secured Venezuela oil prior to striking Iran to soften impact

- simultaneously disrupted our two geopolitical adversaries (Russia China) largest sources of energy. In once case, permanently.


- eliminated Irans income, access to nukes, and ability to destabilize and murder across the Middle East through arming and funding 3x terror proxies.


I’d suggest never before in history has a nation accomplished so much while risking/losing so little.


Trump has decided that these gains in our strategic national interest (for decades) are well worth some short term financial pain.

I’d suggest he’s probably right.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18765 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:56 pm to
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Perhaps you didn’t understand the function of the word “can” in my statement.


I did obviously. I took the liberty of communicating the conditions since you didn’t.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:57 pm to
Remains to be seen

We don't know what sort of offensive capacity they still have

It's not an issue of them attacking us directly. It's an issue of the infrastructure damage they can do in the region. And if we go on the offensive they'll definitely retaliate by striking energy infrastructure in the region.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18765 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:02 pm to
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And if we go on the offensive they'll definitely retaliate by striking energy infrastructure in the region.


Which is completely unacceptable. Exactly why they shouldn’t be allowed to re-arm so they can do it more effectively next time.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9808 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:09 pm to
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Bridges and power plants as promised weeks ago.


Guess who will end up building new infrastructure there? Hint - it won’t be Iran or Israel. This is all an exercise in futility and the more distance we can get from the situation, the better.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:32 pm to
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I’d suggest never before in history has a nation accomplished so much while risking/losing so little.

Interesting as I don't see that we really accomplished much of anything.

quote:

eliminated Irans income, access to nukes
We did this 8 months ago without the war, so not sure what the war accomplished, unless Trump lied to Americans 8 months ago.


Additionally, we didn't actually accomplish regime change yet. A new leader with the same values as the previous leader is not regime change. So without that, we really haven't accomplished anything, as the regime will still be funding terror and doing all the same stuff they were doing before.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:33 pm to
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Guess who will end up building new infrastructure there? Hint - it won’t be Iran or Israel. This is all an exercise in futility and the more distance we can get from the situation, the better.

Bingo

We're in a no win situation. Cut bait now and waste billions of dollars and dead military to accomplish nothing.

Or...

Another decade or 2 of regime change, trillions of dollars, and more dead soliders...and we know how good we are at regime change in the Middle East...
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26304 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 2:35 pm to
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We’ll start with your retarded face.


FFS, this board is such a shite show these days.
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