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re: I sent a conservative son to college and got a socialist in return
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:36 am to FlyingPelican
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:36 am to FlyingPelican
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You are an enabler.
He has his degree in electrical engineering. You promised him multiple degrees?
Not at all. My parents paid for me to go back to school and get my masters. We plan on paying for my daughter to go to vet school.
Both my husband and I feel strongly in providing our children with the education they need to succeed. With his mathematics degree on top of his engineering degree he more than doubles his opportunities in the workforce. I feel lucky he is only going for an extra year unlike my daughter going to vet school!
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:37 am to BamaMamaof2
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:37 am to Dulacrat
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You probably SHOULD have taught your conservative views to your kids,
I did. Now what?
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:38 am to roadGator
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Oh thank the good Lord you approve.
Hint, he’s within his rights either way.
RELAX bro. I used to know Broke.
He broke Blondie's heart one night on 3rd street downtown, in fact.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:41 am to boosiebadazz
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you’re not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative at 40, you have no brain- Churchill
So you have no brain?
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:41 am to L.A.
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I was raised in a conservative home and became a liberal in college. I got over it. By age 25 I was back on track. I'm sure he'll be fine
I became an ultra conservative while in college. Most of my papers were my pushback against the control of information.
One of my favorite classes was a Deviant Sociology class. 20 women, and I. I've never been more motivated to do research and make forceful presentations.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:44 am to Crimson1st
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So you have no brain?
People say I’m a very stable genius. Galaxy-brain, even…
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 11:45 am
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:44 am to BamaMamaof2
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You are an enabler.
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Not at all.
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I feel lucky he is only going for an extra year unlike my daughter going to vet school!
It isn't your fault. Your parents were enablers, too.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:45 am to SlowFlowPro
It is so kind of you to approve of his choice.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:45 am to BamaMamaof2
who is paying his tuition? If it is you, might be time to let him experience how socialism pays for it. How ever that is...
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:45 am to roadGator
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It is so kind of you to approve of his choice.
so are people not supposed to have opinions on a discussion message board or am I confused?
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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You just typed these 2 things back to back
I’m aware. You thinking those statements are in conflict with each other only further demonstrates you don’t understand the term. It also solidifies my statement about you not recognizing the difference between boycotting and cancel culture.
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So, if he's not trying to influence his son, what is he doing with respect to his son (not money)?
He’s not supporting his son’s decisions that he disagrees with. This isnt difficult.
Your understanding of the term renders it completely meaningless, because then it would apply to quite literally everyone since everyone makes decisions to support something or someone else over another thing or person all the time, with their wallets, in the voting booth, etc.
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Do you want me to post some definitions of indoctrination?
No. I want you to stop acting like you’re the most intelligent person in the room at all times when you routinely demonstrate that you aren’t.
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Why was he giving his son money in the first place?
Probably because he’s his son.
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Why did he stop?
Because he doesn’t support his sons choices.
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If you want to frame only one portion of this while ignoring the flip side, that's fine. It's just disingenuous.
It’s not one portion and ignoring the flip side, nor is it disingenuous. You saying it is further proves you don’t understand the difference between boycotting and cancel culture.
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The father was fine supporting his son when the sons believed what the father demands
What did the father demand the son believe?
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Remove the money. What other sorts of support do you think he can withdraw from his son because the son won't believe what the father demands?
The money is the support he is talking about taking away. Removing it makes the discussion pointless, why would I do that?
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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In college today, this should never happen. Men have all the advantages due to the female population being so skewed.
Thanks to Tinder, that means not a damn thing. Any halfway decent looking girl wakes up every day to 500 messages from men telling her how beautiful she is. 4 and 5 level girls think they’re entitled to an 8 or a 9. Their expectations have gone through the roof. Women have always been the choosier sex, but the Internet has exacerbated this to nuclear levels. This’ll start changing when she hits 30 and the crow’s feet and first grey hairs start to appear. But until then, she has the advantage. And she knows it. Add to this the modern tendency of boys to Orbit and Simp, and her puss may as well be a mind control device.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:52 am to Open Your Eyes
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He’s not supporting his son’s decisions that he disagrees with.
So that is not influencing his son?
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because then it would apply to quite literally everyone since everyone makes decisions to support something or someone else over another thing or person all the time, with their wallets, in the voting booth, etc.
I'm a big believer in behaviorism. Positive and negative reinforcement mold us in many ways.
So yes, incentives and influence are very important, especially with very malleable concepts like political beliefs.
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Probably because he’s his son.
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Because he doesn’t support his sons choices
Either he's his son or not. You may want to revise your first response quoted above.
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What did the father demand the son believe?
Non-liberalism of some form or fashion. I'll let the dad work out the finer details of his demands.
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Removing it makes the discussion pointless, why would I do that?
I know you don't want to, because you've constructed this argument just to do so, and it falls apart when you remove it.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:53 am to BamaMamaof2
My daughter went to Tulane and is now a progressive. My son went to LSU and is still conservative. I am not sure if it was the institutions or their gender, but I thought they were both too smart to be politically influenced by professors. I was wrong. Don't send your kids to Tulane.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:53 am to BamaMamaof2
Sounds like a follower
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Opinion?
Naw.
Your approval. That’s way more important than your opinion.
Naw.
Your approval. That’s way more important than your opinion.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:56 am to BamaMamaof2
“Back in my day” (early to mid-80s), Nebraska was pretty conservative overall but even back then we had our occasional random self-styled “intellectuals” on campus who thought they had it all figured out and extolled the virtues of communism. They were largely considered oddballs and most of the kids just laughed and ignored them. I don’t know for sure but would imagine it was a similar story at many if not most campuses back then.
Seems like the biggest change over those decades to present day are those “intellectuals” never really left the campuses but stuck around and became educators.
Teens/young adults often go through that phase of rebelling. The irony (to me) is whereas they used to always rebel against the cultural establishment, now they rebel for it.
As most also know, it’s not limited primarily to pockets on college campuses nowdays but this mind/soul/nation rotting dogma is being indoctrinated into kids from the time they first get in a classroom.
It’s not going to matter much what else happens politically in these coming years if we don’t wrest back control of education.
Seems like the biggest change over those decades to present day are those “intellectuals” never really left the campuses but stuck around and became educators.
Teens/young adults often go through that phase of rebelling. The irony (to me) is whereas they used to always rebel against the cultural establishment, now they rebel for it.
As most also know, it’s not limited primarily to pockets on college campuses nowdays but this mind/soul/nation rotting dogma is being indoctrinated into kids from the time they first get in a classroom.
It’s not going to matter much what else happens politically in these coming years if we don’t wrest back control of education.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:58 am to BamaMamaof2
I you arent a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you are a liberal at 40, you have no brain. Or something like that....Churchill.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:04 pm to BamaMamaof2
Don't know if it will work but it is my plan anyways. Maybe tell him it is cool to explore it but advise against acting on it. Avoid setting his 30 year old self up with baggage to account for. Guess the risk is antifa action creates dissonance later and becomes part of identity if it can't be reconciled. Just keep head down and stay humble until hormones chill at 25. Only then do wisdom generating experiences start to accumulate.
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