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re: I promise I'm trying to think about CC interest.

Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
30844 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:47 pm to
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Lots of “christians” in this thread crying about blatant usury getting curtailed. Credit cards are an abomination and should be banned outright


Your next argument is going to be self discipline is also a sin.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
4886 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:50 pm to
Those of you griping about how irresponsible people are with credit cards aren’t discussing how predatory banks are with credit cards: who they target, where they target them, how they target them, and the fact that banks are not required to educate people how much they could end up paying in interest charges. (i.e., introductory bonus points, 0% introductory offers, etc.)

Or discussing the fact that you have to establish a credit history before you can buy anything else necessary for modern life: cars, homes, appliances and furniture.

Banks are required to show the total cost of all other loans including interest. Why aren’t they required to do it for credit cards? A simple table of how much you end up paying on different balances if you only pay the minimum payments would suffice.
This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 6:52 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16297 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:11 pm to
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Why aren’t they required to do it for credit cards?
Aren't they?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30537 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:13 pm to
Government doesn’t exist to keep people from being stupid, nor should it…
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31451 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Lots of “christians” in this thread crying about blatant usury getting curtailed.

Credit cards are an abomination and should be banned outright

Stop imposing your religion on other people.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:20 pm to
Usury was illegal through almost all of our history
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:22 pm to
It will sharply limit who can get credit cards and what those cards are like, but it will be good for society as a whole
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
14643 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:23 pm to
I think a portion of Americans get in trouble with CCs is they don't have enough to make ends meet - for a variety of reasons - some non-sensical, no doubt.

I hate the darn things. Only use when ordering on line. Have been enslaved to them in the past and hopefully never again
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100174 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:25 pm to
Interest rates are fine if you have good credit


They’re high if you have poor credit. Capping interest rates will just mean less people will qualify. Sometimes a person needs a credit card for an emergency even with high rates. Not the govt job to protect people from bad decision making, nobody forces them to get those cards
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16514 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:27 pm to
You have to scroll down for his stuff about credit cards.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100174 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:28 pm to
I will agree the rates can get ridiculous

I have a 2.5 million dollar line of credit for my farm at 8% interest


I have a CC with 10k limit with 22% interest

Although the farm LOC is secured with 50% hard collateral
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33233 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:28 pm to
How bout dont live on credit?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11143 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:32 pm to
All my home expenses (mortgage, utilities, car payments) come out of a joint account but everything else is charged to a credit card then paid off when the statement comes in. If they're going to give you points for every transaction and you were going to spend the money anyway why not use them and have the benefits of stronger fraud protections than debit cards to boot? I have zero credit card debt. We don't spend money we couldn't afford to pay for when the bill comes due.

With that said, the interest rates on credit cards are laughably high but when you hear stories about people financing cars on credit card level interest rates...you know that most Americans are not the most financially literate and get themselves over the barrel with banks routinely.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11143 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:35 pm to
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Your next argument is going to be self discipline is also a sin.



Bible got some pretty strong opinions against usury. Part of the reasons European Jews ended up in banking was that Catholics refused to take part in the practice so it fell to the outsiders to do the necessary mechanics of the market.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11143 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:39 pm to
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I will agree the rates can get ridiculous

I have a 2.5 million dollar line of credit for my farm at 8% interest


I have a CC with 10k limit with 22% interest

Although the farm LOC is secured with 50% hard collateral


That is the conundrum with credit cards. The bank is truly taking less risk with their 2.5m LOC than the 10k credit card because of the secured assets tied to the former. They deserve to account for their risk however a customer such as yourself ought to be able to get a better deal on the credit card than they offer.

I've got to assume your credit score is as good as mine if not better and it is insane that they even bother keeping the rates they do on my cards because they're never going to see a dime of interest from me anyway...they make all their money off my transaction fees from the businesses.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17661 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:42 pm to
If they pass this, which will never get out of committee, get ready for credit card availability to dry up.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:47 pm to
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Caps will just limit financiers allowing people with higher risk to get credit.


The danger here is when the banking lobbyists tell Anna and AOC that their customer base will decrease with theses CC interest rate caps so in order to maintain our high risk CC holders with lower rates the federal government will have to absorb some of that risk. Not good.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
22845 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:56 pm to

The result will be no credit cards if you don’t meet criteria established by the card companies.

Instead of high interest credit, no credit at all.
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1676 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:09 pm to
Credit cards are great if they are used correctly. You just can’t afford to charge anything you can’t pay for the next billing cycle. If you can’t pay it off in 30 days you have a problem. Maybe have 2 cards, one with a relatively low interest rate used for emergencies or for bigger ticket items you can’t pay for in 30 days and a second one that is used for anything you can pay for on the due date.

The CC companies of course love the folks that only pay the minimum balance. The CC companies hate those who pay the card off 100% on the due date. With electronic payment now there is no excuse in being late on a CC payment. Be a customer the CC companies hate.

There has to be disclipine when using such a powerful tool as a credit card. Just because your car can go 120 mph doesn’t mean you should try it. Set a personal limit and adhere to it.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4529 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:10 pm to
The solution is obvious here. Let Cortez and Luna round up financial backers and start their own CC company. Charge 10% or whatever seems "fair" to you. Run the greedy capitalists out of business. But no govt safety net when an economic downturn (or another inflation spike) bankrupts the company.
This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 8:15 pm
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